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If you don't want people to view something on the public web, don't post it there. This page design is infinitely better than the other one, also linked on the

by drcube 13y ago

If you don't want people to view something on the public web, don't post it there. This page design is infinitely better than the other one, also linked on the HN front page. Seems like you get a choice. Hooray for freedom!

stdbrouw 13y ago
He's saying it's rude (not despicable or forbidden) to link to this page when putting it in front of a big crowd (not e.g. when viewing it on your own). Your comment is therefore entirely beside the point.
- drcube 13y ago
  It's rude to link to an ugly site when you could link to a better, more readable one. It's rude to lie and manipulate people for money, when you could easily avoid doing so. Advertising should not be encouraged, ever. When you have the opportunity to show someone an ad-free, single page, uncluttered version of a piece of literature, do it. Please. Always.
  - ChristianBundy 13y ago
    >Advertising should not be encouraged, ever. I've never come across this view – can you tell me why you hold that opinion?
    - drcube 13y ago
      Advertising is basically all manipulation and lies. If it isn't, we just call it "information". Look at what they call "underwriting" on nonprofit independent or public radio stations. "This production is brought to you by Bill's Shoes, 123 Main Street, Saginaw. Selling Men's and Women's shoes, boots and sandals since 1982." Advertising goes beyond that, using false superlatives, misleading copy, calls to action, and peer pressure, at best. At worst it's just lies. There is nothing free about "buy one get one free", for instance. It's a lie. Sales, "deals", "limited time only" -- these are psychological games. Manipulation. Often, the "everyday" price the sale prices is marked down from, is a lie. Misleading propaganda at best. Straight up fraud at worst. This is the everyday "harmless" content we allow our children and politicians to watch. And that's just traditional television, radio and print advertising. What passes for advertising on the internet is uniformly awful. I'd call most of it malware.
      - Wingman4l7 13y ago
        Advertising: malware for your wetware.
aroch 13y ago
We all know that's not swalsh's point. WaPo is doing us a public service by reporting on all of this, we should encourage such reporting by giving them the ad-revenue from out views.

by drcube 13y ago

stdbrouw 13y ago

He's saying it's rude (not despicable or forbidden) to link to this page when putting it in front of a big crowd (not e.g. when viewing it on your own). Your comment is therefore entirely beside the point.

drcube 13y ago
It's rude to link to an ugly site when you could link to a better, more readable one. It's rude to lie and manipulate people for money, when you could easily avoid doing so. Advertising should not be encouraged, ever. When you have the opportunity to show someone an ad-free, single page, uncluttered version of a piece of literature, do it. Please. Always.
- ChristianBundy 13y ago
  >Advertising should not be encouraged, ever. I've never come across this view – can you tell me why you hold that opinion?
  - drcube 13y ago
    Advertising is basically all manipulation and lies. If it isn't, we just call it "information". Look at what they call "underwriting" on nonprofit independent or public radio stations. "This production is brought to you by Bill's Shoes, 123 Main Street, Saginaw. Selling Men's and Women's shoes, boots and sandals since 1982." Advertising goes beyond that, using false superlatives, misleading copy, calls to action, and peer pressure, at best. At worst it's just lies. There is nothing free about "buy one get one free", for instance. It's a lie. Sales, "deals", "limited time only" -- these are psychological games. Manipulation. Often, the "everyday" price the sale prices is marked down from, is a lie. Misleading propaganda at best. Straight up fraud at worst. This is the everyday "harmless" content we allow our children and politicians to watch. And that's just traditional television, radio and print advertising. What passes for advertising on the internet is uniformly awful. I'd call most of it malware.
    - Wingman4l7 13y ago
      Advertising: malware for your wetware.

aroch 13y ago

We all know that's not swalsh's point. WaPo is doing us a public service by reporting on all of this, we should encourage such reporting by giving them the ad-revenue from out views.