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You're saying, then, that a 4.0 at a community college is not even a 2.0 at Harvard? But how could it be? It's the opposite! 4 > 2! Those universities are tryin

You're saying, then, that a 4.0 at a community college is not even a 2.0 at Harvard? But how could it be? It's the opposite! 4 > 2! Those universities are trying to redefine numbers... Or maybe it's in the units! Ohhh, now I get it: Given CC=Commmunity College, then 4.0 GPA CC < 2.0 GPA Harvard. This implies: 2.0 GPA CC < 2.0 GPA Harvard. Now we drop 2.0 GPA from both sides and we get CC < Harvard, or Harvard > CC. But wait, is that true for every community college and for every class and for every course at Harvard and at all those community colleges? So maybe it's not 100%, so maybe 4.0 GPA CC > 2.0 GPA Harvard in some cases. so, the answer, as usual, is "it depends". What does it depend on? It depends on how things are measured. Woooooooooooo, wait a minute there Sherlock. Harvard is Expensive man! And hard to get into... How can there possibly be cases when Harvard < CC? Since Harvard is so 1337, there's no way that Harvard < CC, right (in some cases)? But then since it's impossible to measure (accurately and without bias) all of the community colleges out there, it's theoretically possible for CC > Harvard, especially when taking into consideration the tuition paid. So, in some cases, (CC+small_tuition) > (Harvard+expensive_tuition), and thus CC > (Harvard + expensive_tuition - small_tuition), so then one could say that CC - expensive_tuition > Harvard - small_tuition in some cases. So, when you wrote "it's not a stretch to believe that 100% of the Harvard kids would have gotten As had they taken the same class." You're actually trying to disprove that "CC - expensive_tuition > Harvard - small_tuition in some cases", but that can't be, because there's no way to measure all. Thus your statement "it's not a stretch to believe" has to be incorrect (since can't be verified as correct). Anyway, 100% gotten A? Really? Are you a betting man? What if one student had a bad day that day and got an 89? Be careful making generalizations, man. You can't know until you measure; and then you can't know until many other people have also measured, and then you can't know until many years have passed and nobody had come forward with substantial allegations of study bias in your field of study. Find those

rayiner 13y ago
Harvard, at least in the last 5-7 years, has been effectively free for the majority of American families.
jjoonathan 13y ago
How did this: > variation in difficulty between classes, professors, and peer-groups can easily dominate variation in difficulty imposed by the grading scale Become this: > 4.0 GPA CC < 2.0 GPA Harvard. This implies: 2.0 GPA CC < 2.0 GPA Harvard. Now we drop 2.0 GPA from both sides and we get CC < Harvard, or Harvard > CC. ... Harvard is so 1337, there's no way that Harvard < CC, right (in some cases)? And why do you think I'm performing a cost/benefit analysis? I relayed an anecdote about a single class that had to do with course material, not finances or overall GPA comparisons. > You're actually trying to disprove that "CC - expensive_tuition > Harvard - small_tuition in some cases" No. I'll admit that I made a slightly hyperbolic statement when I made a claim about kids in a class I never attended, but you belabor this point to such excess that I have no trouble calling it "nitpicking." > Are you a betting man? What if one student had a bad day that day and got an 89? Then my conclusion would not change in the slightest. > Be careful making generalizations, man. Right back at you. Slight hyperbole is one thing, straw men are another.

rayiner 13y ago

Harvard, at least in the last 5-7 years, has been effectively free for the majority of American families.

jjoonathan 13y ago

How did this: > variation in difficulty between classes, professors, and peer-groups can easily dominate variation in difficulty imposed by the grading scale Become this: > 4.0 GPA CC < 2.0 GPA Harvard. This implies: 2.0 GPA CC < 2.0 GPA Harvard. Now we drop 2.0 GPA from both sides and we get CC < Harvard, or Harvard > CC. ... Harvard is so 1337, there's no way that Harvard < CC, right (in some cases)? And why do you think I'm performing a cost/benefit analysis? I relayed an anecdote about a single class that had to do with course material, not finances or overall GPA comparisons. > You're actually trying to disprove that "CC - expensive_tuition > Harvard - small_tuition in some cases" No. I'll admit that I made a slightly hyperbolic statement when I made a claim about kids in a class I never attended, but you belabor this point to such excess that I have no trouble calling it "nitpicking." > Are you a betting man? What if one student had a bad day that day and got an 89? Then my conclusion would not change in the slightest. > Be careful making generalizations, man. Right back at you. Slight hyperbole is one thing, straw men are another.