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Not entirely related and this could just be coincidence, but.. I've seen a few cases lately where people have linked https://news.ycombinator.com/newest https:/

Not entirely related and this could just be coincidence, but.. I've seen a few cases lately where people have linked https://news.ycombinator.com/newest https://news.ycombinator.com/newest or just asked people to go there to vote their story up and the stories have fallen off the front page sharply despite doing well. People used to claim getting people to hit /newest was the best way to encourage votes (since votes from direct linking to items were penalized or not counted in some way) but I suspect votes made from direct visits to https://news.ycombinator.com/newest https://news.ycombinator.com/newest are now also subject to the same fate.

acemtp 13y ago
It would be interesting indeed to know if it's the case. In all case, I prefer to have direct feedback from HN community.
minimaxir 13y ago
"Stories have fallen off the front page sharply despite doing well" is an instance of flagging overcompensation, not punishment for vote rigging. Also, some domains have been penalized, which is why some articles fail to make the front page even with many votes on r/newest (e.g. medium.com)
- fn 13y ago
  Why are some domains penalized? Just curious.
  - minimaxir 13y ago
    Usually domains with a high submission quantity of typically low quantity content. (imgur.com, quora.com, qz.com.) However, higher-quality domains such as github.com and arstechnica.com get penalized as an offset to the fact that duplicate submissions result in upvotes. See the full list at: http://www.righto.com/2013/11/how-hacker-news-ranking-really-works.html http://www.righto.com/2013/11/how-hacker-news-ranking-really...
    - clarky07 13y ago
      > However, higher-quality domains such as github.com and arstechnica.com get penalized as an offset to the fact that duplicate submissions result in upvotes. I've never understood that. Submitting content IS upvoting content. Clearly if I'm willing to take the time to submit content I want to upvote it. I'd personally think that multiple submissions of the same thing should get a bonus, not a penalty.
      - minimaxir 13y ago
        That might be a problem if spambots are involved, though.

acemtp 13y ago

It would be interesting indeed to know if it's the case. In all case, I prefer to have direct feedback from HN community.

minimaxir 13y ago

"Stories have fallen off the front page sharply despite doing well" is an instance of flagging overcompensation, not punishment for vote rigging. Also, some domains have been penalized, which is why some articles fail to make the front page even with many votes on r/newest (e.g. medium.com)

fn 13y ago
Why are some domains penalized? Just curious.
- minimaxir 13y ago
  Usually domains with a high submission quantity of typically low quantity content. (imgur.com, quora.com, qz.com.) However, higher-quality domains such as github.com and arstechnica.com get penalized as an offset to the fact that duplicate submissions result in upvotes. See the full list at: http://www.righto.com/2013/11/how-hacker-news-ranking-really-works.html http://www.righto.com/2013/11/how-hacker-news-ranking-really...
  - clarky07 13y ago
    > However, higher-quality domains such as github.com and arstechnica.com get penalized as an offset to the fact that duplicate submissions result in upvotes. I've never understood that. Submitting content IS upvoting content. Clearly if I'm willing to take the time to submit content I want to upvote it. I'd personally think that multiple submissions of the same thing should get a bonus, not a penalty.
    - minimaxir 13y ago
      That might be a problem if spambots are involved, though.