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If we are bringing up totally unrelated things, sure. Why not say he was facing a firing squad?

coldtea 13y ago
What exactly is "unrelated"? Restating: people, in the same country as Aaron, have been sentenced to same or worse sentences, even for lighter stuff.
- rayiner 13y ago
  I can't even begin to fathom what you could be talking about, unless you're talking about some "three strikes" circumstance, which is in fact unrelated because Aaron didn't have two strikes.
  - coldtea 13y ago
    Well, he was charged with over nine felony counts. So how is that unrelated to the "three strikes" cases? Plus, the Obama administration raised maximum sentences for hacking count to 20 years (up from 10).
    - smm2000 13y ago
      Three strikes all have to be separate convictions. Stealing one gallon of milk from three different stores is not three strikes.
      - davvolun 13y ago
        So stealing three gallons total? I guess I'm not clear here. The idea is that I steal a gallon of milk, am convicted, punished, then three months later steal another gallon, repeat, and the third time (three more months later) I potentially face the three strikes rule, right? (Ignoring that stealing milk probably doesn't trigger the three-strikes rule being non-violent; also the 'three months' is just to suggest "some time has passed since conviction").
        jack-r-abbit 13y ago
        I think if each criminal act resulted in a separate conviction, then three strikes can apply. But I think if you go on a milk theft spree (over some period of time keep stealing a gallon of milk from a bunch of different stores), when they catch you, you would likely be charged with multiple counts of milk theft and get "Strike 1" for the conviction. (also ignoring that stealing milk probably doesn't trigger the three-strikes rule.)
    - rayiner 13y ago
      Because the federal three strikes law only applies to serious violent felonies, and only if there are two or more prior federal or state felonies, at least one of which must be a serious violent felony as well and the other of which can be a serious drug crime. As far as I know, only California has a three strikes law that can apply to non-violent felonies, and I don't know of any three strikes law that applies to convictions on multiple counts for the same conduct. When you see stuff like "man gets life for possessing an unregistered firearm" (at least outside of California), you need to read the fine print and look for the prior murder or armed robbery convictions. I disagree with three strikes laws even when structured to only apply to violent felonies, but they're totally irrelevant to this discussion.
      - coldtea 13y ago
        Fair enough.

What exactly is "unrelated"? Restating: people, in the same country as Aaron, have been sentenced to same or worse sentences, even for lighter stuff.

rayiner 13y ago
I can't even begin to fathom what you could be talking about, unless you're talking about some "three strikes" circumstance, which is in fact unrelated because Aaron didn't have two strikes.
- coldtea 13y ago
  Well, he was charged with over nine felony counts. So how is that unrelated to the "three strikes" cases? Plus, the Obama administration raised maximum sentences for hacking count to 20 years (up from 10).
  - smm2000 13y ago
    Three strikes all have to be separate convictions. Stealing one gallon of milk from three different stores is not three strikes.
    - davvolun 13y ago
      So stealing three gallons total? I guess I'm not clear here. The idea is that I steal a gallon of milk, am convicted, punished, then three months later steal another gallon, repeat, and the third time (three more months later) I potentially face the three strikes rule, right? (Ignoring that stealing milk probably doesn't trigger the three-strikes rule being non-violent; also the 'three months' is just to suggest "some time has passed since conviction").
      - jack-r-abbit 13y ago
        I think if each criminal act resulted in a separate conviction, then three strikes can apply. But I think if you go on a milk theft spree (over some period of time keep stealing a gallon of milk from a bunch of different stores), when they catch you, you would likely be charged with multiple counts of milk theft and get "Strike 1" for the conviction. (also ignoring that stealing milk probably doesn't trigger the three-strikes rule.)
  - rayiner 13y ago
    Because the federal three strikes law only applies to serious violent felonies, and only if there are two or more prior federal or state felonies, at least one of which must be a serious violent felony as well and the other of which can be a serious drug crime. As far as I know, only California has a three strikes law that can apply to non-violent felonies, and I don't know of any three strikes law that applies to convictions on multiple counts for the same conduct. When you see stuff like "man gets life for possessing an unregistered firearm" (at least outside of California), you need to read the fine print and look for the prior murder or armed robbery convictions. I disagree with three strikes laws even when structured to only apply to violent felonies, but they're totally irrelevant to this discussion.
    - coldtea 13y ago
      Fair enough.