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Every time they pull this crap a lot of non us copyrighted fan subbed anime (i enjoy watching) disappear off the internet. Edit: Yes i get them from fan subbin
by Fuxy 13y ago
Every time they pull this crap a lot of non us copyrighted fan subbed anime (i enjoy watching) disappear off the internet.
Edit: Yes i get them from fan subbing sites because no company is willing to license it and sell it. I buy what i can and take what i can't.
I'm certain there's tonnes of legitimate content being lost on every shutdown some of it permanently if it's not very common or popular.
I think people should be allowed to sue the MPAA or RIAA if they take down content they don't own.
- TylerE 13y ago"non-us copyrighted"? Ever heard of the Berne Convention?
- Fuxy 13y agoDo i sound like I would care? Give me a way of watching what i like the moment it comes out (not 3 years later) and I'll pay for it. Otherwise I'll do whatever it takes to get it. There's still series that I watched and enjoyed over 5 years ago that are still not translated and sold outside of japan so should i waste my tine waiting for a miracle because of the Berne Convention? If the market is not willing to do it the community will plain and simple. The problem is at the moment the community is a lot better at offering what people want then any company.
- sspiff 13y agoYou said "non-US copyright" and "legal", while the Berne Convention, of which the US is a signatory, states that copyright of any signatory nation extends to all signatory nations as if it were under national copyright in each nation. So you should care, as he/she was pointing out a false statement in your original post and what you claim to be legal is actually illegal. Whether you change your use of fansub animes is really besides the point.
- DanBC 13y agoSome people neither know nor care about the legal situation. If what they want is available legally when they want it they'll get it via that route. And if it isn't they'll just pirate it. Anime communities are pretty strict in asking people to buy licensed DVDs and to take down torrents for series that receive a US release.
- Fuxy 13y agoI guess it is. Seems to be meant to protect potential revenues of a local show in the international market for the length of the copyright. However the flaw is that copyright still doesn't negate the old saying of "strike when the iron is hot" and no copyright length will protect your potential revenue if you don't move fast enough. I guess I should find another example of non copyright work although even doujinshi which i would argue should be considered original work due to the time and effort of the author are considered illegal since they use copyrighted elements. Copyright prevents derivative works and stifles creativity. Just look at the UK comic scene all the comics are original works no doujinshi at all and i suspect its because copyright is too strict and you wouldn't get a table if you wanted to sell one the organizers of the event would be afraid of being sued.
- rakoo 13y agoMorale of the story: seed it on Bittorrent. Centralized hosting will never be as reliable as distributed methods of distribution in the long term.
- Fuzzwah 13y agoThe reason why sites like hotfile are used by people who redistribute content is that they can make money from affiliate systems when users pay for premium accounts to access the content with out the download speed throttling or download size restrictions.
- peroo 13y agoThe irony of the situation is that it's unprofitable to license anime for the US precisely because the fansubbing community already distributes "free" copies, and most anime-fans consume the majority of their content that way.
- radoslawc 13y agoWhat's even more ironic, is that no one is willing to pay for poor quality subtitles, which is frequently the case with the ones provided by companies.
- peroo 13y agoThat's presumably a result of razor-thin margins and quick turnarounds. Competing on quality against free labor is quite hard.
- millerc 13y ago...which is precisely what is meant when one says "there's no market for this". At this point, content owners have the choice of either being permissive, or clamping down on the community using IP laws.
- Fuxy 13y agoThe interesting part is they could just donate a generous amount to the community in exchange for the use of their translations in the "official" release. It's a win-win from what i see it. Community gets funding they don't have to pay for another translation and make a little more profit.
- lmm 13y agoThe thing is, the fansubbed product is better. The user experience is as good as with Kindle books, and better than any commercial video service - the translation quality of modern internet streaming services like Crunchyroll is actually good enough to compete with fansubs. But the video quality isn't, and I can't stream on my commute.
- mafuyu 13y agoYou can find pretty much all you want over XDCC and Bittorrent, which are the primary methods which fansubbers distribute their videos.