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So the economy, as it is currently constituted, is the one, single way in which things could be arranged and if they were arranged in any other fashion the whol

by glesica 13y ago

So the economy, as it is currently constituted, is the one, single way in which things could be arranged and if they were arranged in any other fashion the whole society would implode and we'd run out of toilet paper? Is that your contention? Because if it isn't, then you have to admit that we can make some changes to the system. Reasonable people might disagree as to the type and extent of changes that would "work", but they would all agree that some sort of changes would improve things. In other words, there are things the general could be ordered to do that would not be absurd or impossible for a general to accomplish, like marching around in shiny shoes, or invading another country. Quoting a French dude doesn't make your argument better, it just helps illustrate how little you thought about your words before hitting "reply".

smsm42 13y ago
>>> Is that your contention? No, it's not. Repeating for those who TLDR the pervious comment: you can not just invent any rules you like. There exist rules that are there regardless of your desires. I hope you see the difference between this and "is the one, single way in which things could be arranged". >>> we can make some changes to the system Of course we can. We just need to understand we can not make any changes but just some and in certain ways, and those some changes have to be done right. People can fly. You just need to follow certain rules and do certain tricks. If you try to fly without following those rules, you may die or be badly hurt. So may a society if it tries to make changes without following the rules. >>> Quoting a French dude doesn't make your argument better, I would advise you to familiarize yourself with who the "French dude" is. That would make your life richer and your understanding of the world fuller. It would also hopefully make you understand why I quoted him.
- glesica 13y ago
  The comment to which you responded never said we can make up any arbitrary rules we like, just that we can change the rules if they aren't to our liking... > We, as a polity, control the rules of the system in > which all this stuff happens. If the system we've > built exhibits behaviors that we find undesirable, > then we can change the rules. Your comment, as you have explained it, is therefore completely pointless. You were arguing with a straw man more or less.

by glesica 13y ago

smsm42 13y ago

>>> Is that your contention? No, it's not. Repeating for those who TLDR the pervious comment: you can not just invent any rules you like. There exist rules that are there regardless of your desires. I hope you see the difference between this and "is the one, single way in which things could be arranged". >>> we can make some changes to the system Of course we can. We just need to understand we can not make any changes but just some and in certain ways, and those some changes have to be done right. People can fly. You just need to follow certain rules and do certain tricks. If you try to fly without following those rules, you may die or be badly hurt. So may a society if it tries to make changes without following the rules. >>> Quoting a French dude doesn't make your argument better, I would advise you to familiarize yourself with who the "French dude" is. That would make your life richer and your understanding of the world fuller. It would also hopefully make you understand why I quoted him.

glesica 13y ago
The comment to which you responded never said we can make up any arbitrary rules we like, just that we can change the rules if they aren't to our liking... > We, as a polity, control the rules of the system in > which all this stuff happens. If the system we've > built exhibits behaviors that we find undesirable, > then we can change the rules. Your comment, as you have explained it, is therefore completely pointless. You were arguing with a straw man more or less.