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Is it too early to reference Skynet and Terminator?

by yRetsyM 13y ago

chmike 13y ago
Why the down vote ? This is a pertinent question. It's a problem we will face soon or later. Internet has also it's problem. The ostrich attitude or obscurantism about them is plain stupid. My answer to this question is that dynamite and machine have good use and bad use. There were also good reason to fear the bad use of them. But mankind manage to keep the balance largely in favor of the good use. I'll not prone obscurantism or the ostrich attitude regarding the risks of this new technologies. But we will have to manage that type of problem. It's easier when we have a little time left in front of us before things get out of control. I beleive that artificial intelligence reproducing the brain capabilities is just behind the corner. So we are in a race that I hope the good people and use will win.
- icebraining 13y ago
  I beleive that artificial intelligence reproducing the brain capabilities is just behind the corner. Why?
  - chmike 13y ago
    All the cogs of the brain are well known and documented since years and their interoperation as well. But we still don't know how it all work together and what function is implemented by it.(I mean publicly. Some people may already know and keep it secret) This is like DNA. All the puzzle pieces (molecules) were known but what was missing is how these pieces fit together. It was a aha moment that made the difference between before and after. For the explanation on how the cortical neural network works the aha moment is the only missing step. All the puzzle pieces are known (of coures in the hypothesis that only bioelectrical mechanisms are in play).
    - leokun 13y ago
      > All the cogs of the brain are well known and documented since years and their interoperation as well. But we still don't know how it all work together and what function is implemented by it.(I mean publicly. Some people may already know and keep it secret) I don't think there's a single correct thing about anything in this sentence, it's also a little bit conspiracy crazed.
      - chmike 13y ago
        What a troll! Anything more concrete to justify what you "think" or should I say believe ? I don't see what could be "conspiracy crazed" in my comment. It looks like you believe that if someone knew how it worked, the whole world would immediatly know it as well. This might be a shock for you but this world is not sesame street.
eli_gottlieb 13y ago
No. It is exactly the right time. People really need to stop trying to bring scifi to life without considering that most of those scifi books/movies resulted in the extinction of mankind, or something near that.
- TeMPOraL 13y ago
  People need to learn to stop generalizing from fictional evidence, especially wrt. to sci-fi tech. http://lesswrong.com/lw/k9/the_logical_fallacy_of_generalization_from/ http://lesswrong.com/lw/k9/the_logical_fallacy_of_generaliza...
  - eli_gottlieb 13y ago
    Actually, when it comes to autonomous robots, I would generally say, "Holy shit we're all going to die unless these are very thoroughly regulated and controlled" is a pretty good heuristic. A delivery drone that crashes into your car due to a software bug wasn't turning sapient and trying to kill you. You just ran off a bridge and died anyway.
    - TeMPOraL 13y ago
      > A delivery drone that crashes into your car due to a software bug wasn't turning sapient and trying to kill you. You just ran off a bridge and died anyway. People crash into each other on the road all the time. I'd trust a machine much more than a human any day.
      - eli_gottlieb 13y ago
        A thoroughly-tested autonomous driving program with all kinds of safety measures built in to handle things like firmware errors? Sure! Some project that a three-man company hacked together in five months and are now selling without requisite safety measures and testing? Yikes!

Is it too early to reference Skynet and Terminator?

by yRetsyM 13y ago

Is it too early to reference Skynet and Terminator?

Why the down vote ? This is a pertinent question. It's a problem we will face soon or later. Internet has also it's problem. The ostrich attitude or obscurantism about them is plain stupid. My answer to this question is that dynamite and machine have good use and bad use. There were also good reason to fear the bad use of them. But mankind manage to keep the balance largely in favor of the good use. I'll not prone obscurantism or the ostrich attitude regarding the risks of this new technologies. But we will have to manage that type of problem. It's easier when we have a little time left in front of us before things get out of control. I beleive that artificial intelligence reproducing the brain capabilities is just behind the corner. So we are in a race that I hope the good people and use will win.

icebraining 13y ago
I beleive that artificial intelligence reproducing the brain capabilities is just behind the corner. Why?
- chmike 13y ago
  All the cogs of the brain are well known and documented since years and their interoperation as well. But we still don't know how it all work together and what function is implemented by it.(I mean publicly. Some people may already know and keep it secret) This is like DNA. All the puzzle pieces (molecules) were known but what was missing is how these pieces fit together. It was a aha moment that made the difference between before and after. For the explanation on how the cortical neural network works the aha moment is the only missing step. All the puzzle pieces are known (of coures in the hypothesis that only bioelectrical mechanisms are in play).
  - leokun 13y ago
    > All the cogs of the brain are well known and documented since years and their interoperation as well. But we still don't know how it all work together and what function is implemented by it.(I mean publicly. Some people may already know and keep it secret) I don't think there's a single correct thing about anything in this sentence, it's also a little bit conspiracy crazed.
    - chmike 13y ago
      What a troll! Anything more concrete to justify what you "think" or should I say believe ? I don't see what could be "conspiracy crazed" in my comment. It looks like you believe that if someone knew how it worked, the whole world would immediatly know it as well. This might be a shock for you but this world is not sesame street.

eli_gottlieb 13y ago

No. It is exactly the right time. People really need to stop trying to bring scifi to life without considering that most of those scifi books/movies resulted in the extinction of mankind, or something near that.

TeMPOraL 13y ago
People need to learn to stop generalizing from fictional evidence, especially wrt. to sci-fi tech. http://lesswrong.com/lw/k9/the_logical_fallacy_of_generalization_from/ http://lesswrong.com/lw/k9/the_logical_fallacy_of_generaliza...
- eli_gottlieb 13y ago
  Actually, when it comes to autonomous robots, I would generally say, "Holy shit we're all going to die unless these are very thoroughly regulated and controlled" is a pretty good heuristic. A delivery drone that crashes into your car due to a software bug wasn't turning sapient and trying to kill you. You just ran off a bridge and died anyway.
  - TeMPOraL 13y ago
    > A delivery drone that crashes into your car due to a software bug wasn't turning sapient and trying to kill you. You just ran off a bridge and died anyway. People crash into each other on the road all the time. I'd trust a machine much more than a human any day.
    - eli_gottlieb 13y ago
      A thoroughly-tested autonomous driving program with all kinds of safety measures built in to handle things like firmware errors? Sure! Some project that a three-man company hacked together in five months and are now selling without requisite safety measures and testing? Yikes!