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Adrian Newey (most successful F1 designer in the history of the sport) designed the Red Bull X2010 for the game Gran Turismo based on the concept of building th

by nikcub 13y ago

Adrian Newey (most successful F1 designer in the history of the sport) designed the Red Bull X2010 for the game Gran Turismo based on the concept of building the fastest car possible in an 'anything goes' scenario: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bull_X2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bull_X2010 The limit becomes G-forces that a driver can bear, especially over a race distance. They limited it to 6G. For an engine they interestingly picked a 3L V6, where the new F1 formula is a 1.6L V6.

k__ 13y ago
Would it get any faster if they didn't need a driver?
- tobylane 13y ago
  Likely, as the monocoque (safety cell) has to be fairly tall. It's said above that the limit was 6G, which F1 nearly matches [1] (that GP wasn't for the most powerful engines in ~2000). With no space for driver there could be more aero meaning it could go round a corner like that faster, causing more sideways G. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Grand_Prix http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Grand_Prix
  - VLM 13y ago
    Aside from space issues I don't think you'd need to spend any weight on safety gear at all. To keep the audience alive, the track safety upgrades would be unfortunately expensive for track owners. To keep the cars on the road, I suspect expensive track modifications would eventually be required. Perfectly vertical turns, perhaps.
martindale 13y ago
Let's just have robots drive them, then.
davej 13y ago
Here's the X2014: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/12/03/red-bulls-gran-turismo-6-concept-x2014_n_4376333.html http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/12/03/red-bulls-gran-tu... Also here's an interesting comparison betweek the X2010 and X2011: http://xn-games.net/okra/2011/10/29/gran-turismo-5-red-bull-x2010-vs-red-bull-x2011-comparison/ http://xn-games.net/okra/2011/10/29/gran-turismo-5-red-bull-... Finally, tech specs and diagrams (indicating load & downforce) for the X2010: http://jonsibal.com/blog/2010/10/red-bull-x1/ http://jonsibal.com/blog/2010/10/red-bull-x1/

by nikcub 13y ago

k__ 13y ago

Would it get any faster if they didn't need a driver?

tobylane 13y ago
Likely, as the monocoque (safety cell) has to be fairly tall. It's said above that the limit was 6G, which F1 nearly matches [1] (that GP wasn't for the most powerful engines in ~2000). With no space for driver there could be more aero meaning it could go round a corner like that faster, causing more sideways G. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Grand_Prix http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Grand_Prix
- VLM 13y ago
  Aside from space issues I don't think you'd need to spend any weight on safety gear at all. To keep the audience alive, the track safety upgrades would be unfortunately expensive for track owners. To keep the cars on the road, I suspect expensive track modifications would eventually be required. Perfectly vertical turns, perhaps.

martindale 13y ago

Let's just have robots drive them, then.

davej 13y ago

Here's the X2014: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/12/03/red-bulls-gran-turismo-6-concept-x2014_n_4376333.html http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/12/03/red-bulls-gran-tu... Also here's an interesting comparison betweek the X2010 and X2011: http://xn-games.net/okra/2011/10/29/gran-turismo-5-red-bull-x2010-vs-red-bull-x2011-comparison/ http://xn-games.net/okra/2011/10/29/gran-turismo-5-red-bull-... Finally, tech specs and diagrams (indicating load & downforce) for the X2010: http://jonsibal.com/blog/2010/10/red-bull-x1/ http://jonsibal.com/blog/2010/10/red-bull-x1/