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Huh whatnow? The original iPod (and modern iPods minus the Touch) don't run iOS at all. The iPod gave Apple the time to stall until they could build what Stev

by seiji 13y ago

Huh whatnow? The original iPod (and modern iPods minus the Touch) don't run iOS at all. The iPod gave Apple the time to stall until they could build what Steve wanted to make in 1999, but the world didn't have the capacity to create yet. These days, Apple is the forefront of both industrial design and fabrication capacity. They aren't in the past—they are in the present and they are moving the world along with them, not waiting for it to catch up to them anymore.

sliverstorm 13y ago
Your parent is grouping iPod/iPhone/iPad. Yes, the original iPod didn't run iOS, but he's just using it as a moniker. We could call them iDevices if that pleases you more. The iPod wasn't just an infusion of cash to keep the company alive, to me it really looks like the start of the whole mobile line that today runs iOS.
CmonDev 13y ago
"they are moving the world along with them" You tried iOS 7, didn't you? I sure hope they are not using "Apple Maps" to move themselves and the world.
- hrrsn 13y ago
  Apple Maps has come a long way since the iOS 6 launch. Google Maps is still undoubtedly better, but Apple have been working hard on it. iOS 7 is not bad. People are still afraid of change (look at what they said about the original iPhone, now look where we are) but ultimately it was in need of a refresh.
  - CmonDev 13y ago
    But they are not "moving the world" in any way except for hardware. iOS 7 is derivative.
    - hrrsn 13y ago
      True, even the hardware iterations aren't exciting. Rebranding the 5 as the 5C is disappointing. Where Apple do lead is in software, Android is getting better for the regular user but it's still not even close. Vertical integration works.
      - moron4hire 13y ago
        for varying definitions of "regular users" and "works"
    - gress 13y ago
      iOS7 is more like iOS6 than any it is anything else. iOS has certainly adopted features from other platforms over time. But what has been adopted in the other direction is far greater. If you are referring to the removal of skeuomorphic style elements, then it's true that android and windows phone were always less skeuomorphic than iOS, but that's irrelevant to the technology.
  - dmd 13y ago
    > Google Maps is still undoubtedly better, but Apple have been working hard on it. The big difference is that Apple only allows Apple to make things better, where Google allows the world to do its work for it. Example: The URL for the Boston subway system (the T) is "mbta.com". Nearly every single T stop showed up as "mTBa.com" in Apple Maps when it was released. In the intervening time, they've fixed maybe 1/3 of the stops to be the correct URL - and almost all of that 1/3 in the last two months. (I've been watching, because I thought it was interesting.) First of all, you'd think if they fixed one, they'd fix all of them. Second, this is the sort of thing that when you report it to Google Maps team gets fixed within DAYS.
    - hrrsn 13y ago
      Again, Google has had a lot longer to get this right. I still use Google Maps whenever possible but Apple are hiring for multiple positions in my country for Maps staff shows they're at least /trying/ when we don't even have an Apple store.

by seiji 13y ago

sliverstorm 13y ago

Your parent is grouping iPod/iPhone/iPad. Yes, the original iPod didn't run iOS, but he's just using it as a moniker. We could call them iDevices if that pleases you more. The iPod wasn't just an infusion of cash to keep the company alive, to me it really looks like the start of the whole mobile line that today runs iOS.

CmonDev 13y ago

"they are moving the world along with them" You tried iOS 7, didn't you? I sure hope they are not using "Apple Maps" to move themselves and the world.

hrrsn 13y ago
Apple Maps has come a long way since the iOS 6 launch. Google Maps is still undoubtedly better, but Apple have been working hard on it. iOS 7 is not bad. People are still afraid of change (look at what they said about the original iPhone, now look where we are) but ultimately it was in need of a refresh.
- CmonDev 13y ago
  But they are not "moving the world" in any way except for hardware. iOS 7 is derivative.
  - hrrsn 13y ago
    True, even the hardware iterations aren't exciting. Rebranding the 5 as the 5C is disappointing. Where Apple do lead is in software, Android is getting better for the regular user but it's still not even close. Vertical integration works.
    - moron4hire 13y ago
      for varying definitions of "regular users" and "works"
  - gress 13y ago
    iOS7 is more like iOS6 than any it is anything else. iOS has certainly adopted features from other platforms over time. But what has been adopted in the other direction is far greater. If you are referring to the removal of skeuomorphic style elements, then it's true that android and windows phone were always less skeuomorphic than iOS, but that's irrelevant to the technology.
- dmd 13y ago
  > Google Maps is still undoubtedly better, but Apple have been working hard on it. The big difference is that Apple only allows Apple to make things better, where Google allows the world to do its work for it. Example: The URL for the Boston subway system (the T) is "mbta.com". Nearly every single T stop showed up as "mTBa.com" in Apple Maps when it was released. In the intervening time, they've fixed maybe 1/3 of the stops to be the correct URL - and almost all of that 1/3 in the last two months. (I've been watching, because I thought it was interesting.) First of all, you'd think if they fixed one, they'd fix all of them. Second, this is the sort of thing that when you report it to Google Maps team gets fixed within DAYS.
  - hrrsn 13y ago
    Again, Google has had a lot longer to get this right. I still use Google Maps whenever possible but Apple are hiring for multiple positions in my country for Maps staff shows they're at least /trying/ when we don't even have an Apple store.