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Let me tell you a similar story: So this one time there was this one guy who was just, like, totally minding his own business and the police just arrested him.

by chasing 13y ago

Let me tell you a similar story: So this one time there was this one guy who was just, like, totally minding his own business and the police just arrested him. Therefore the United States is a police state and you should never ever talk with cops for any reason whatsoever.

fiatmoney 13y ago
Are you under the impression that this does not happen?
- chasing 13y ago
  I'm under the impression that this 4chan anecdote is lacking a ton of detail that would be needed to understand the story. Including, perhaps, the police perspective about why he was arrested. "I was arrested for no reason. Fuck the police!" is a non-story.
  - glenra 13y ago
    Wait, why WOULDN'T he expect to be arrested? Possession of CP is illegal. He went into a police station in possession of CP. Therefore, he is a lawbreaker. Simple as that. Yes, it's stupid...but these laws ARE stupid. You'd be in the exact same situation walking into the police station with a bag of cocaine or a sawed-off shotgun. They don't HAVE to bring charges and might choose not to, but that choice is at their discretion. No?
jzwinck 13y ago
It happened to me: http://gothamist.com/2011/08/08/video_hikers_arrested_for_not_showi.php http://gothamist.com/2011/08/08/video_hikers_arrested_for_no...
- chasing 13y ago
  My point exactly: Here's a story with some actual detail.
- incompatible 13y ago
  I take it that it's a defacto requirement that you always need to carry ID in the US?
  - fiatmoney 13y ago
    There's no requirement to carry one, but in many states you must produce it if you are carrying it, and of course you need one to drive. If you're being cited for something, even something that doesn't typically come with jail time like say jaywalking, lack of ID usually translates into being arrested so they can "ascertain your identity". Hiibel is the main precedent here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiibel_v._Sixth_Judicial_District_Court_of_Nevada http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiibel_v._Sixth_Judicial_Distri...

by chasing 13y ago

fiatmoney 13y ago

Are you under the impression that this does not happen?

chasing 13y ago
I'm under the impression that this 4chan anecdote is lacking a ton of detail that would be needed to understand the story. Including, perhaps, the police perspective about why he was arrested. "I was arrested for no reason. Fuck the police!" is a non-story.
- glenra 13y ago
  Wait, why WOULDN'T he expect to be arrested? Possession of CP is illegal. He went into a police station in possession of CP. Therefore, he is a lawbreaker. Simple as that. Yes, it's stupid...but these laws ARE stupid. You'd be in the exact same situation walking into the police station with a bag of cocaine or a sawed-off shotgun. They don't HAVE to bring charges and might choose not to, but that choice is at their discretion. No?

jzwinck 13y ago

It happened to me: http://gothamist.com/2011/08/08/video_hikers_arrested_for_not_showi.php http://gothamist.com/2011/08/08/video_hikers_arrested_for_no...

chasing 13y ago
My point exactly: Here's a story with some actual detail.
incompatible 13y ago
I take it that it's a defacto requirement that you always need to carry ID in the US?
- fiatmoney 13y ago
  There's no requirement to carry one, but in many states you must produce it if you are carrying it, and of course you need one to drive. If you're being cited for something, even something that doesn't typically come with jail time like say jaywalking, lack of ID usually translates into being arrested so they can "ascertain your identity". Hiibel is the main precedent here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiibel_v._Sixth_Judicial_District_Court_of_Nevada http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiibel_v._Sixth_Judicial_Distri...