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Remember people, don't talk with the police: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
by ivanca 13y ago
Remember people, don't talk with the police: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
- streetnigga 13y agoEngage the police, they are your neighbors.
- moocowduckquack 13y agopeople pay too much attention to hats
- streetnigga 13y agoConfession: I cannot remember names. But I will remember actions of a person. I've had more non-hatted folks fuck me over than the other. Again just a single source of stats. Nothing to draw from.
- moocowduckquack 13y agoIn my experience the people who have fucked me over the most have been mean bastards who like fucking people over. Some of them have worn hats, but most of them didn't and some of the folk in hats have also helped me out and I suspect most of the mean bastards in hats were mean before they even got the hat and there are a fair amount of mean bastards wondering about anyway.
- maxvu 13y agoI think a major qualifier for that video is "if you're suspect of a crime". In the post, our main character claims to not have expected to come under suspicion.
- aeturnum 13y agoI am not an expert, but the speaker in the video is very clear that you should avoid speaking to the police under all circumstances. It does not matter if they tell you that you're a suspect or not. He gives an example of a colleague asking if he should speak to the police when he is not a suspect and his advice is, "no!"
- maxvu 13y agoI admit, I was inserting personal opinion when using the phrase "a major qualifier". I think it's silly and antagonistic to the problems we already see with our demographic and police to always have an adversarial stance against law enforcement. Do you disagree? Are there examples where you would talk to the police? For example, if your home was broken into?
- scardine 13y agoAlways assume you are suspect of a crime while talking to the police.
- briandh 13y agoThat is exactly the wrong thing to take away from the video
- polarix 13y agoNo, that is emphatically NOT a qualifier for that video. The point is that anything you say can be used against you for any of an infinity of possible crimes, while it can never ever help you at all.
- tagabek 13y agoLet's say you get pulled over and the cop asks you how fast you were going. Do you just not say anything?
- theorique 13y ago"I believe I was traveling two miles per hour under the legal speed limit, officer." No need to make things complicated.
- vsviridov 13y agoYou say "Am I being detained? Am I free to go?"
- jmcgough 13y agoYeah. When they say "do you know why I pulled you over?" they're looking for an admission of guilt.
- lopatin 13y agoThere's a conflicting opinion from a cop on Reddit. Basically he agrees that you should shut your mouth, not let them search your car just for the heck of it, etc ..., but when it comes to the question "Do you know why I stopped you?", playing dumb won't do you any favors. There's a lot of other useful info he says that are relevant to the thread. http://www.reddit.com/r/everymanshouldknow/comments/1rsizj/emskr_how_to_talk_to_law_enforcement/cdqixlx?context=1 http://www.reddit.com/r/everymanshouldknow/comments/1rsizj/e...
- ihsw 13y agoYes = admission of guilt No = admission of negligence The only right answer is a non-answer: "Hold on, lemme get my license and registration."
- yeukhon 13y agoPlease. Then they charge you with uncooperative. You guys are assume all police officers are bad. I have seen officers asked and let people go after giving warning. Let's be clever here, don't be dumb. The right thing to do is to turn on your cellphone's camera and start recording.
- tzs 13y agoI'm curious. Suppose someone you love is abducted, and the police arrive minutes after the adbuction and can probably catch the abductors if they start the chase immediately...but although there were many witnesses not a single one will tell the police which direction the abductors ran, or what kind of car they drove, or the license number without talking to a lawyer first, because they watched that video. Would you continue to recommend it? And yes, a surprisingly large number of people who watch it say that in the above circumstances, they would wait for a lawyer before saying "the kidnappers drove north".
- ivanca 13y agoThat's an emergency, one of the few times when you should say enough for them to be able to execute an immediate action; specially if you care about such action being performed. Further unrelated questioning should be avoided under the pretense that you need to talk with a lawyer.
- tzs 13y agoGood. Glad to see there is some common sense here. The last couple of times this came up, some said even in an emergency you should stay silent, because for example if you tell the police the kidnappers drove north in a white Honda, and it later turns out you were mistaken (it was a cream Toyota and they drove northwest), you might be suspected of being an accomplice purposefully misdirecting the police!
- alangpierce 13y agoThe blanket statement “Never talk to the police” is obviously either not very well-thought-out or not meant to be precise. What if you're the victim of a crime? A more honest title for this video would be “Talking to the police will only make you more likely to be convicted of a crime”. An infinitely-selfish person might interpret that as “Never talk to the police” (although even that interpretation has its weaknesses), but a reasonable, respectable person should consider the positive consequences of talking to the police and weigh them with the possibility that they will end up being wrongly convicted of a crime. If you're innocent and have information that could potentially help stop a criminal from committing more crimes (as in OP's case, assuming his story is true), I think that in most cases it's totally reasonable to talk to the police, since the benefit to society would almost always outweigh the small possibility of being wrongly convicted of a crime. If you know that you're suspected of a crime, or that the police are likely to suspect you of a crime after you give them information (as OP potentially could have foreseen), then the question gets harder. Even when you know that you're suspected of a crime, I still think "Never talk to the police" is often overly-selfish, depending on the circumstances.
- ivanca 13y agoWhen you are the victim may be the only exception; police everywhere is "overly-selfish" in the sense that they score by getting criminals; meaning anyone perceived as such by most judging figures.