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there's a second employee at the same place now caught up in it, with possibly up to 190,000 cases now needing review - http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/11

there's a second employee at the same place now caught up in it, with possibly up to 190,000 cases now needing review - http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/11/26/chemist-related-dookhan-case-fired-for-allegedly-misstating-credentials/HhWnT898pjWVJgdAKSnUWJ/story.html http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/11/26/chemist-related-...

seivan 13y ago
Oh this is rich. 'she took some chemistry classes in college but her degree is actually in sociology,' Hot diggittiy. Edit: Goes to prove that a _GOOD_ defense lawyer would have dig that up during cross exam. (if that is a thing)
- sigstoat 13y ago
  > Edit: Goes to prove that a _GOOD_ defense lawyer would have dig that up during cross exam. (if that is a thing) sure, the defense lawyer can ask questions, but what series of questions do you think they could've asked that would've done anything here? they would've needed to perform pre-trial investigations of the lady (such as the state police performed) to discover this. which isn't out of the question, but isn't very likely to be worth it for the defendants. (cost high, likelihood of useful information low.)
  - seivan 13y ago
    Hmm not sure, but well, wouldn't a simple question of "where did your degree in chemistry come from" while the person in question is under OAuth? EDIT: Oath. I've been working too much recently.
    - lttlrck 13y ago
      Don't worry OAuth made sense to me in this context somehow..
    - sigstoat 13y ago
      since that is exactly what she was lying, or confused about, i fail to see how asking it one more time would help. in fact, the state prosecutors probably asked her that question a bajillion times, as part of qualifying her as an expert witness. (added: in case you don't know, i'd like to clarify that qualifying expert witnesses occurs in open court. the defense, judge, jury, anyone watching the case, etc would all hear the question asked, and her answer. this would come after a copy of her CV, including relevant degrees, was submitted.)
      - DanBC 13y ago
        How much does it cost to check whether someone got the degree they said they did from the place they said they did? It's an interesting question about who should bear that cost.

seivan 13y ago

Oh this is rich. 'she took some chemistry classes in college but her degree is actually in sociology,' Hot diggittiy. Edit: Goes to prove that a _GOOD_ defense lawyer would have dig that up during cross exam. (if that is a thing)

sigstoat 13y ago
> Edit: Goes to prove that a _GOOD_ defense lawyer would have dig that up during cross exam. (if that is a thing) sure, the defense lawyer can ask questions, but what series of questions do you think they could've asked that would've done anything here? they would've needed to perform pre-trial investigations of the lady (such as the state police performed) to discover this. which isn't out of the question, but isn't very likely to be worth it for the defendants. (cost high, likelihood of useful information low.)
- seivan 13y ago
  Hmm not sure, but well, wouldn't a simple question of "where did your degree in chemistry come from" while the person in question is under OAuth? EDIT: Oath. I've been working too much recently.
  - lttlrck 13y ago
    Don't worry OAuth made sense to me in this context somehow..
  - sigstoat 13y ago
    since that is exactly what she was lying, or confused about, i fail to see how asking it one more time would help. in fact, the state prosecutors probably asked her that question a bajillion times, as part of qualifying her as an expert witness. (added: in case you don't know, i'd like to clarify that qualifying expert witnesses occurs in open court. the defense, judge, jury, anyone watching the case, etc would all hear the question asked, and her answer. this would come after a copy of her CV, including relevant degrees, was submitted.)
    - DanBC 13y ago
      How much does it cost to check whether someone got the degree they said they did from the place they said they did? It's an interesting question about who should bear that cost.