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Don't air your dirty laundry in public if you don't want everyone seeing it. Seriously, what happened to discretion? If I take off all of my clothes and run thr

by ohyes 13y ago

Don't air your dirty laundry in public if you don't want everyone seeing it. Seriously, what happened to discretion? If I take off all of my clothes and run through Central Park, I can't get mad because someone took a nude picture of me. Don't go to the coffee shop to make a scene with your spouse. The problem is that people aren't embarrassed by their bad behavior without someone shaming them publicly. Adults ought to know better.

chromanoid 13y ago
Yeah, I hate those people who show their human side in public expecting me to sympathetically ignore it. I think the state could really earn back some money for all the cameras in public places. Maybe with a TV show like this: "London Life, your neighbours firsthand -> Do you know this idiot? He broke down in Oxford street after seeing his 'girlfriend' with his best friend kissing. Such a shitty looser." -.-
- jasonlotito 13y ago
  You consider crying over a cheating lover bad behavior?
  - chromanoid 13y ago
    No, of course not. But maybe the heartless persons who think washing your dirty laundry in public is for public entertainment and out of rudeness.
    - jasonlotito 13y ago
      Well, the parent post was talking about bad behavior, and the roll out someone crying as an example. But now you are talking about something different from what the parent was referring to. Just trying to understand the context of your statement. It's important to know when someone ignores a parent comment and goes off on another tangent. In response to your point, what you are talking about is bad behavior. I mean, if you do something out of rudeness, that pretty much defines it right there. And no, I don't think publicly shaming someone who is publicly shaming someone is bad, as in the case of "Diane," especially with the outcome.
      - chromanoid 13y ago
        Since when is dirty laundry exclusively about bad behavior? (see http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dirty%20laundry http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dirty%20laundry : private information that causes shame and embarrassment when it is made public) The OP thinks doing something that should be private in public is bad behavior, which is ridiculous. @Diane: see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6827823 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6827823 (edit) or https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6827673 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6827673
        jasonlotito 13y ago
        > Since when is dirty laundry exclusively about bad behavior? Never said it was. What I said was someone using your dirty laundry "for public entertainment and out of rudeness" is bad behavior. I mean, it's right there in your definition: "and out of rudeness." I thought it was pretty obvious. > @Diane "Maybe they haven't had a family member with mental illness." Yep. That was a perspective I hadn't though about before. The sentence after that "This Elan guy clearly hasn't" commits the same crime he's accusing Elan of, but the point is sound. That being said, the woman didn't have a mental illness, and the assault at the end was inexcusable.
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iamben 13y ago
But what if I'm having a quiet conversation over coffee with a colleague in Starbucks (lambasting our boss), intended for our ears only, because inviting said (perhaps opposite sex) colleague to my house would be odd/creepy (or it's lunchtime)? What if the person on the table next to us can just about make out our conversation and decides it's interesting/humorous enough to tweet? Perhaps we don't want to meet in the middle of a park or a deserted bridge - we want a coffee and it's cold. We're expecting some level of privacy and we're not broadcasting - we're just unfortunately seated. I'm all for discretion and appropriate behaviour in public, but just because you can hear something doesn't mean you should tell the world about it. Have some decency! (I'm not referring to you personally!)
aaronem 13y ago
Well, it depends. With the "roof breakup" stuff I have no problem, because there's little editorializing and no involvement, just a running report of those statements of which these two people have decided they absolutely must unburden themselves in public. But the stuff on the plane is a whole different matter. Granted, the lady in 7-whatever wasn't behaving particularly well, and she should probably have known better. I've seen people behave similarly when I've flown around holidays, and especially when travel is delayed or interrupted by circumstances beyond anyone's control. But "Elan"'s behavior was even worse. "Eat my dick?" Honestly? This isn't a case of someone answering poor public behavior with class; this is a case of someone behaving childishly within earshot of someone who is far more childish still, who giggles in joy at the opportunity to misbehave in an utterly crass fashion with some confidence that he'll receive kudos for it from his Twitter followers, on whose qualities I shall not here speculate. I mean, really. I was with him up until the glass of wine; I thought "Good choice! Sending a gift shows consideration, and no doubt the note sent with it will explain that he's sorry she's having a bad time, but that they're all in the same notional boat, and perhaps the accompanying gift will help her relax and roll with the punches." Then I read the note. By the time I got to the end of the travesty he perpetrated for his adoring Twitter public, I was glad she slapped him; I hope she made it a good one. "Spare the rod and spoil the child," after all, and it's quite plain from his own Twitter feed that this infant escaped preschool far too soon.

by ohyes 13y ago

chromanoid 13y ago

Yeah, I hate those people who show their human side in public expecting me to sympathetically ignore it. I think the state could really earn back some money for all the cameras in public places. Maybe with a TV show like this: "London Life, your neighbours firsthand -> Do you know this idiot? He broke down in Oxford street after seeing his 'girlfriend' with his best friend kissing. Such a shitty looser." -.-

jasonlotito 13y ago
You consider crying over a cheating lover bad behavior?
- chromanoid 13y ago
  No, of course not. But maybe the heartless persons who think washing your dirty laundry in public is for public entertainment and out of rudeness.
  - jasonlotito 13y ago
    Well, the parent post was talking about bad behavior, and the roll out someone crying as an example. But now you are talking about something different from what the parent was referring to. Just trying to understand the context of your statement. It's important to know when someone ignores a parent comment and goes off on another tangent. In response to your point, what you are talking about is bad behavior. I mean, if you do something out of rudeness, that pretty much defines it right there. And no, I don't think publicly shaming someone who is publicly shaming someone is bad, as in the case of "Diane," especially with the outcome.
    - chromanoid 13y ago
      Since when is dirty laundry exclusively about bad behavior? (see http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dirty%20laundry http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dirty%20laundry : private information that causes shame and embarrassment when it is made public) The OP thinks doing something that should be private in public is bad behavior, which is ridiculous. @Diane: see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6827823 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6827823 (edit) or https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6827673 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6827673
      - jasonlotito 13y ago
        > Since when is dirty laundry exclusively about bad behavior? Never said it was. What I said was someone using your dirty laundry "for public entertainment and out of rudeness" is bad behavior. I mean, it's right there in your definition: "and out of rudeness." I thought it was pretty obvious. > @Diane "Maybe they haven't had a family member with mental illness." Yep. That was a perspective I hadn't though about before. The sentence after that "This Elan guy clearly hasn't" commits the same crime he's accusing Elan of, but the point is sound. That being said, the woman didn't have a mental illness, and the assault at the end was inexcusable.
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iamben 13y ago

But what if I'm having a quiet conversation over coffee with a colleague in Starbucks (lambasting our boss), intended for our ears only, because inviting said (perhaps opposite sex) colleague to my house would be odd/creepy (or it's lunchtime)? What if the person on the table next to us can just about make out our conversation and decides it's interesting/humorous enough to tweet? Perhaps we don't want to meet in the middle of a park or a deserted bridge - we want a coffee and it's cold. We're expecting some level of privacy and we're not broadcasting - we're just unfortunately seated. I'm all for discretion and appropriate behaviour in public, but just because you can hear something doesn't mean you should tell the world about it. Have some decency! (I'm not referring to you personally!)

aaronem 13y ago

Well, it depends. With the "roof breakup" stuff I have no problem, because there's little editorializing and no involvement, just a running report of those statements of which these two people have decided they absolutely must unburden themselves in public. But the stuff on the plane is a whole different matter. Granted, the lady in 7-whatever wasn't behaving particularly well, and she should probably have known better. I've seen people behave similarly when I've flown around holidays, and especially when travel is delayed or interrupted by circumstances beyond anyone's control. But "Elan"'s behavior was even worse. "Eat my dick?" Honestly? This isn't a case of someone answering poor public behavior with class; this is a case of someone behaving childishly within earshot of someone who is far more childish still, who giggles in joy at the opportunity to misbehave in an utterly crass fashion with some confidence that he'll receive kudos for it from his Twitter followers, on whose qualities I shall not here speculate. I mean, really. I was with him up until the glass of wine; I thought "Good choice! Sending a gift shows consideration, and no doubt the note sent with it will explain that he's sorry she's having a bad time, but that they're all in the same notional boat, and perhaps the accompanying gift will help her relax and roll with the punches." Then I read the note. By the time I got to the end of the travesty he perpetrated for his adoring Twitter public, I was glad she slapped him; I hope she made it a good one. "Spare the rod and spoil the child," after all, and it's quite plain from his own Twitter feed that this infant escaped preschool far too soon.