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Quoted from the discussion: Posted by dman on December 9, 2008 at 7:00am Hm. First convince all hardware manufacturers and retailers to stop labelli

by eitland 13y ago

Quoted from the discussion: Posted by dman on December 9, 2008 at 7:00am Hm. First convince all hardware manufacturers and retailers to stop labelling their cords and sockets by the grossly un-PC terms "Male" and "Female". Then get photographers and graphic artists to remove the clearly racist words "Black" and "White" from their vocabulary. Next we can get backup, archive and filesystem listings to stop using the horribly discriminatory ageist terms "older" and "newer". Then, maybe, we can come up with a new pair of words that signifies "the one that gives orders" and "the one that does what it's told". Or maybe in new-speak it should be "committee enabler" and "co-operator". :-/

judk 13y ago
This is why IT people have a bad reputation in the world of socially adjusted adults. BTW "master/slave" words don't even make sense for databases. They are "authoritative / possibiy-stale-replica". In many setups, the master doesn't care if the slave exists-- this is an important feature to protect the master if the slave fails, avoiding "many points of failure" In IDE cables (remember that case, from Oakland CA a few years back?) master/slave means something different again (but I don't remember how IDE works -- it was something like primary/secondary,though, not one controlling the other)
- nailer 13y ago
  > "IT people have a bad reputation in the world of socially adjusted adults." They do, but so do those who are constantly offended.
- Houshalter 13y ago
  >This is why IT people have a bad reputation in the world of socially adjusted adults. No, it's not. This isn't true, it's not even an argument for why the terminology should be changed.
- donw 13y ago
  Most of my friends are non-programmers, and from what I can see, geeks enjoy a far higher reputation than the censorship goons that run around telling people that they need to stop using their native language. On an educational note, in IDE the meaning is actually relevant -- the slave only responds to requests if permitted by the master.
- hso9791 13y ago
  > This is why IT people have a bad reputation in the world of socially adjusted adults. Come on! You run around saying things like this about large groups of people. How is that better than using master/slave about machines? Hint: It's much, much worse.
to3m 13y ago
Interesting. I always thought "manager" and "worker" (as commonly employed for thread pools) could be less emotive terms. Or "master" and "servant", perhaps? English has lots of words and I'm sure we can find something less emotive. (But perhaps I'm just too PC - as I actually genuinely don't use the term male and female for plugs and sockets. Never liked them.)

by eitland 13y ago

judk 13y ago

This is why IT people have a bad reputation in the world of socially adjusted adults. BTW "master/slave" words don't even make sense for databases. They are "authoritative / possibiy-stale-replica". In many setups, the master doesn't care if the slave exists-- this is an important feature to protect the master if the slave fails, avoiding "many points of failure" In IDE cables (remember that case, from Oakland CA a few years back?) master/slave means something different again (but I don't remember how IDE works -- it was something like primary/secondary,though, not one controlling the other)

nailer 13y ago
> "IT people have a bad reputation in the world of socially adjusted adults." They do, but so do those who are constantly offended.
Houshalter 13y ago
>This is why IT people have a bad reputation in the world of socially adjusted adults. No, it's not. This isn't true, it's not even an argument for why the terminology should be changed.
donw 13y ago
Most of my friends are non-programmers, and from what I can see, geeks enjoy a far higher reputation than the censorship goons that run around telling people that they need to stop using their native language. On an educational note, in IDE the meaning is actually relevant -- the slave only responds to requests if permitted by the master.
hso9791 13y ago
> This is why IT people have a bad reputation in the world of socially adjusted adults. Come on! You run around saying things like this about large groups of people. How is that better than using master/slave about machines? Hint: It's much, much worse.

to3m 13y ago

Interesting. I always thought "manager" and "worker" (as commonly employed for thread pools) could be less emotive terms. Or "master" and "servant", perhaps? English has lots of words and I'm sure we can find something less emotive. (But perhaps I'm just too PC - as I actually genuinely don't use the term male and female for plugs and sockets. Never liked them.)