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If someone doesn't like being called an asshole, they should not act like one. While the documentation pull request may have been trivial, it was also risk-fre

If someone doesn't like being called an asshole, they should not act like one. While the documentation pull request may have been trivial, it was also risk-free. Ben Noordhuis chose to reject a risk free pull request because he doesn't like gender neutral language (instead of ignoring it and let someone else handle it).

lukaseder 13y ago
Have you read Ben's reply? https://github.com/joyent/libuv/pull/1015#issuecomment-29568172 https://github.com/joyent/libuv/pull/1015#issuecomment-29568...
- konstruktor 13y ago
  I have read the original comment before the shit hit the fan, which clearly shows his attitude: "Sorry, not interested in trivial changes like that." Your lik is nothing but personal crisis PR, written after the shit hit the fan.
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  - nailer 13y ago
    It's trivial in that's it's small. Ben doesn't say that the matter of gender in computing is trivial. Personally, I would have clicked the button because documentation is important to me. However a lot of people don't like smaller fixes like that. I don't agree but that doesn't make them bad people.
  - ZoF 13y ago
    I don't find his response/explanation so difficult to believe. Gender neutral language(especially for non-native English speakers) is quite simply not viewed as an important enough issue to warrant retroactive application. Should it be? Certainly; and while I think it's important that the change be made, and the developer informed about the importance of gender-neutral language in future documentation, I personally think that labeling a core developer of an awesome piece of OSS as a misogynistic asshole without even giving him time to respond publicly is an over-reaction. It's a sensitive issue that should have been resolved privately. If the developer actively continued to include gender specific grammar and denied future pull-requests retroactively applying gender neutral language then I think the title of misogynistic asshole would be much more applicable. One denied pull-request and a revert does not a misogynistic asshole make.(imo)
  - DanBC 13y ago
    > I volunteer in a mentorship program that gets young people - especially young women - involved in technology. How many of you go out and actively try to increase the number of women in the field? Do you go out and actively try to increase the number of women in the field?

lukaseder 13y ago

Have you read Ben's reply? https://github.com/joyent/libuv/pull/1015#issuecomment-29568172 https://github.com/joyent/libuv/pull/1015#issuecomment-29568...

konstruktor 13y ago
I have read the original comment before the shit hit the fan, which clearly shows his attitude: "Sorry, not interested in trivial changes like that." Your lik is nothing but personal crisis PR, written after the shit hit the fan.
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- nailer 13y ago
  It's trivial in that's it's small. Ben doesn't say that the matter of gender in computing is trivial. Personally, I would have clicked the button because documentation is important to me. However a lot of people don't like smaller fixes like that. I don't agree but that doesn't make them bad people.
- ZoF 13y ago
  I don't find his response/explanation so difficult to believe. Gender neutral language(especially for non-native English speakers) is quite simply not viewed as an important enough issue to warrant retroactive application. Should it be? Certainly; and while I think it's important that the change be made, and the developer informed about the importance of gender-neutral language in future documentation, I personally think that labeling a core developer of an awesome piece of OSS as a misogynistic asshole without even giving him time to respond publicly is an over-reaction. It's a sensitive issue that should have been resolved privately. If the developer actively continued to include gender specific grammar and denied future pull-requests retroactively applying gender neutral language then I think the title of misogynistic asshole would be much more applicable. One denied pull-request and a revert does not a misogynistic asshole make.(imo)
- DanBC 13y ago
  > I volunteer in a mentorship program that gets young people - especially young women - involved in technology. How many of you go out and actively try to increase the number of women in the field? Do you go out and actively try to increase the number of women in the field?