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Ben Noordhuis (https://github.com/bnoordhuis https://github.com/bnoordhuis) is the #3 contributor to Node.js making 1,315 commits since 2010. Now he is openly c
by jsnk 13y ago
Ben Noordhuis (https://github.com/bnoordhuis https://github.com/bnoordhuis) is the #3 contributor to Node.js making 1,315 commits since 2010. Now he is openly called an asshole by a Joyent employee not over introducing critical bugs, but rejecting doc change that has no impact on how people use Nodejs whatsoever.
- konstruktor 13y agoIf someone doesn't like being called an asshole, they should not act like one. While the documentation pull request may have been trivial, it was also risk-free. Ben Noordhuis chose to reject a risk free pull request because he doesn't like gender neutral language (instead of ignoring it and let someone else handle it).
- lukaseder 13y agoHave you read Ben's reply? https://github.com/joyent/libuv/pull/1015#issuecomment-29568172 https://github.com/joyent/libuv/pull/1015#issuecomment-29568...
- konstruktor 13y agoI have read the original comment before the shit hit the fan, which clearly shows his attitude: "Sorry, not interested in trivial changes like that." Your lik is nothing but personal crisis PR, written after the shit hit the fan.
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- nailer 13y agoIt's trivial in that's it's small. Ben doesn't say that the matter of gender in computing is trivial. Personally, I would have clicked the button because documentation is important to me. However a lot of people don't like smaller fixes like that. I don't agree but that doesn't make them bad people.
- ZoF 13y agoI don't find his response/explanation so difficult to believe. Gender neutral language(especially for non-native English speakers) is quite simply not viewed as an important enough issue to warrant retroactive application. Should it be? Certainly; and while I think it's important that the change be made, and the developer informed about the importance of gender-neutral language in future documentation, I personally think that labeling a core developer of an awesome piece of OSS as a misogynistic asshole without even giving him time to respond publicly is an over-reaction. It's a sensitive issue that should have been resolved privately. If the developer actively continued to include gender specific grammar and denied future pull-requests retroactively applying gender neutral language then I think the title of misogynistic asshole would be much more applicable. One denied pull-request and a revert does not a misogynistic asshole make.(imo)
- DanBC 13y ago> I volunteer in a mentorship program that gets young people - especially young women - involved in technology. How many of you go out and actively try to increase the number of women in the field? Do you go out and actively try to increase the number of women in the field?
- lukaseder 13y agoIf political correctness is involved, people often jump to conclusions burning the "offender" at the stake before hearing them. We have not learned from The Enlightenment. What's crazy is that this particular Joyent employee is a VP of Engineering at Joyent. A person in such a position should have a better feel for PR, in my opinion. By claiming that Ben would be fired at Joyent and by publicly calling him an asshole without even hearing his position, he might've just have his own firing signed. Unless, Joyent is the new Inquisition in this matter.
- 21echoes 13y ago> that has no impact on how people use Nodejs whatsoever. ... except people who actually read the code and documentation ...
- chris_wot 13y agoNo, it still has no impact on how people use Nodejs whatsoever.
- nailer 13y agoSome folk would argue that women reading the node docs (edit: source) would get the idea that Node devs think of themselves as being all male. (for the record, I would have merged the request, as I like small fixes and think it's a good change, but I think Joyent's lynching of Ben is disgraceful)
- chris_wot 13y agoLikewise, I would have merged it also. I still don't think it affected the way that they would use Nodejs though.
- the_mitsuhiko 13y agoJust for the record: that's an internal comment, not part of the documentation.
- 21echoes 13y ago> that has no impact on how people use Nodejs whatsoever. ... except people who actually read the code and documentation ...
- andrewl-hn 13y agoWell, If you count both Node and Libuv then he is the number one active contributor BY FAR. Be is a real powerhouse behind the Node project.