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actually, there is a related phenomenon called "Beyond Shampoo" or "nopoo" (the website seems to be down). There is a huge movement around giving up soap and sh

actually, there is a related phenomenon called "Beyond Shampoo" or "nopoo" (the website seems to be down). There is a huge movement around giving up soap and shampoo permanently to avoid and cure stuff like dandruff, acne, etc. I personally had HUGE successes with it in improving my overall hygiene - but be warned that it takes upto six months for your body to "reboot". during that time, your hygiene grows worse - before getting extremely better. I suspect it is the same case with the brushing thing : it will take quite some time before the flora and fauna of your mouth reboots. [1] http://freetheanimal.com/2010/12/a-most-successful-self-experiement-over-18-months-soap-and-shampoo-free.html http://freetheanimal.com/2010/12/a-most-successful-self-expe... [2] http://paleohacks.com/questions/17060/no-poo-and-dandruff.html#axzz2mCPzOIdR http://paleohacks.com/questions/17060/no-poo-and-dandruff.ht...

anoncow 13y ago
I tried the no shampoo thing for a month. The result was extremely scaly, itchy scalp. So I used Ketoconazole + shampoo once. (Ketoconazole can cause dryness, flakes and hairfall; so I used very little of it). Had some dryness and some hairfall following the wash. The next two weeks were without shampoo. Now I intermittently use a "mild" shampoo like Johnsons baby shampoo every week or so and my seborrheic dermatitis is much better. So the nopoo thing is not so bad.
- thaumasiotes 13y ago
  My sister and I both suffered from dandruff while living near Santa Cruz, California. And we both found that it magically went away when we moved. When I grow out facial hair, there's a particular spot on my upper lip that starts to flake, which I also think of as "dandruff". Kept shaven, it's asymptomatic. Basically, there seem to be many mysterious causes and effects involved.
  - gojomo 13y ago
    I'm curious: was your residence in Santa Cruz a misty/mold-conducive environment? What's the climate and household like where you moved to?
    - thaumasiotes 13y ago
      Foggy, yes. We moved to various places -- Philadelphia, Shanghai, Costa Rica, Brazil. I can only really speak for Shanghai, which is incredibly hot with about 100% humidity in the summer (I have seen water pool on the floor of my building, just because there was so much in the air) and 1-4 degrees centigrade in the winter. I've never thought of it as misty. Don't move to Shanghai for the weather.
Goronmon 13y ago
I personally had HUGE successes with it in improving my overall hygiene - but be warned that it takes up to six months for your body to "reboot". Is there any evidence that this statement has any basis in reality or is it like when people do a 'cleanse' to get rid of the 'toxins' in the body?
stevewillows 13y ago
I've been without deodorant for years now. Anytime I think I should try it, my body seems to reject it. I wash my body and my hair with the same bar of soap. I've been doing this for about 8 years now. I think I'll stick to toothpaste though. Overall, the use of essential oils for cleaning is ideal. My ex-wife had horrible acne, and tried the harsh 'cures' like Proactiv. The fix was a simple blend of lavender and tea tree essential oils mixed with distilled water in a spray. Using that once or twice a day cleared her up within a week. Disclosure: I own a small soap company and only use my own bars! :) [1] [1] http://oldkinderhook.co http://oldkinderhook.co

anoncow 13y ago

I tried the no shampoo thing for a month. The result was extremely scaly, itchy scalp. So I used Ketoconazole + shampoo once. (Ketoconazole can cause dryness, flakes and hairfall; so I used very little of it). Had some dryness and some hairfall following the wash. The next two weeks were without shampoo. Now I intermittently use a "mild" shampoo like Johnsons baby shampoo every week or so and my seborrheic dermatitis is much better. So the nopoo thing is not so bad.

thaumasiotes 13y ago
My sister and I both suffered from dandruff while living near Santa Cruz, California. And we both found that it magically went away when we moved. When I grow out facial hair, there's a particular spot on my upper lip that starts to flake, which I also think of as "dandruff". Kept shaven, it's asymptomatic. Basically, there seem to be many mysterious causes and effects involved.
- gojomo 13y ago
  I'm curious: was your residence in Santa Cruz a misty/mold-conducive environment? What's the climate and household like where you moved to?
  - thaumasiotes 13y ago
    Foggy, yes. We moved to various places -- Philadelphia, Shanghai, Costa Rica, Brazil. I can only really speak for Shanghai, which is incredibly hot with about 100% humidity in the summer (I have seen water pool on the floor of my building, just because there was so much in the air) and 1-4 degrees centigrade in the winter. I've never thought of it as misty. Don't move to Shanghai for the weather.

Goronmon 13y ago

I personally had HUGE successes with it in improving my overall hygiene - but be warned that it takes up to six months for your body to "reboot". Is there any evidence that this statement has any basis in reality or is it like when people do a 'cleanse' to get rid of the 'toxins' in the body?

stevewillows 13y ago

I've been without deodorant for years now. Anytime I think I should try it, my body seems to reject it. I wash my body and my hair with the same bar of soap. I've been doing this for about 8 years now. I think I'll stick to toothpaste though. Overall, the use of essential oils for cleaning is ideal. My ex-wife had horrible acne, and tried the harsh 'cures' like Proactiv. The fix was a simple blend of lavender and tea tree essential oils mixed with distilled water in a spray. Using that once or twice a day cleared her up within a week. Disclosure: I own a small soap company and only use my own bars! :) [1] [1] http://oldkinderhook.co http://oldkinderhook.co