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... a community rife with arrogant children It's difficult to accept your rational argument when you include stuff like this.
by delano 17y ago
... a community rife with arrogant children
It's difficult to accept your rational argument when you include stuff like this.
- gaius 17y agoCheck out the Ruby blog scene. It's a wonder they actually write any code in between the bragging about how awesome they are and slagging each other off.
- knowtheory 17y agoSo you're going to judge the entire Ruby community by like... 5% of their bloggers? :P
- wildjim 17y agoTo be fair, "Pythonista's" were renowned for slagging-off most other languages, and in the same breath, claiming how very like LISP their Python is. Hopefully this attitude has died off... Ruby developers (Rubyons?) were renowned for typical Japanese self-effacement when it was becoming popular, which I think was some of the appeal... I guess what goes around comes around...
- jamesbritt 17y agoHey, now we can judge the entire Python community by tdavis's comments. :)
- tdavis 17y agoshrug You certainly could! Though judging any group of people by my comments would certainly do a disservice to that group.
- tdavis 17y agoWhy is that? It can easily be proven. I'm not trying to suggest that everyone who uses Ruby is an arrogant child as I even have friends who certainly don't fit that bill, but when you have an especially abrasive attitude like that within a community, it only takes a minority to sour the majority. And while it certainly isn't a fault of the language, it definitely influences it usage for some people.
- delano 17y ago... it only takes a minority to sour the majority. That's a decision you make for yourself, not an absolute truth.
- tdavis 17y agoI thought I was rather clear on the fact that I wasn't speaking in absolute truths. My answers reflect my personal opinion of why I (and others like me, in some cases) choose Python over Ruby.
- peskytruth 17y agoUmm....and have you ever spent anytime time in #python? Some are helpful, but there are a choice few who I would describe as arrogant children. In any community of size, you get good seeds and bad seeds. Python is not immune to this.
- pwang 17y agoActually, for a while I was spending quite a bit of time in #python. I didn't come across "arrogant children". Looking at some of the drama and prima donna action in the Rails community (from a distance) just made me sad and grateful that my corner of Python (scientific computing) doesn't have those sorts of issues.
- rbanffy 17y agoWell.. Zed Shaw is raving about Python these days. And yes, a lot of us pythonistas view him with suspicion.