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Personally I don't agree with Marx a lot (I'm more of a Groucho Marxist and am therefore not allowed to join any club that would have me as a member), but I do

Personally I don't agree with Marx a lot (I'm more of a Groucho Marxist and am therefore not allowed to join any club that would have me as a member), but I do have Marxist family members and know a fair amount of what it is and what it is not. India is definitely not an example of a Marxist state. edit - Folk keep framing stuff in the economic dogma-battles of the superpowers in the 19th and 20th century, but to me the problem is 14th century economics combined with 21st century logistics. Retaining a caste system in a world of global networks can give you a fucking big pyramid and systemise abuse on an unprecedented scale with the money that flows in from those outside the structure.

oskarth 13y ago
Groucho Marxism is the best kind of ideology. I didn't mean to imply that India is in any way a marxist state. I was referring to the unreflected usage of words like exploitation in this thread (not in the article) - a usage that I could easily see being picked up after taking a class or two. Pre-packaged vocabulary has a certain smell, just like bad code.
cromulent 13y ago
Actually Marx chose to resign from the Friars Club, citing its low standards in allowing "people like me as a member", rather than not being allowed to join.
steveklabnik 13y ago
Not only that, if I recall correctly there's actually a few Maoist groups in India that are trying to start a revolution as well... They certainly don't see India as anything but capitalist.
- wrongc0ntinent 13y ago
  Indeed, the communist party in India is about as militant as they come. You're probably referring to the naxalites[0], they're not shy about targeted violence[1], especially since they're active in a lot of poor, "backward" [2] areas that go ignored by the central government until there is an industrial resource to exploit. [0] http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naxalite http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naxalite [1] http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naxalite%E2%80%93Maoist_insurgency http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naxalite%E2%80%93Maoist_insur... [2] http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2013-09-27/news/42427766_1_special-category-status-raghuram-rajan-backwardness http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2013-09-27/news... Edited to include a reference to "backward" - a term used in official language.
  - steveklabnik 13y ago
    Yes, this is exactly what I was thinking of, thank you.

oskarth 13y ago

Groucho Marxism is the best kind of ideology. I didn't mean to imply that India is in any way a marxist state. I was referring to the unreflected usage of words like exploitation in this thread (not in the article) - a usage that I could easily see being picked up after taking a class or two. Pre-packaged vocabulary has a certain smell, just like bad code.

cromulent 13y ago

Actually Marx chose to resign from the Friars Club, citing its low standards in allowing "people like me as a member", rather than not being allowed to join.

steveklabnik 13y ago

Not only that, if I recall correctly there's actually a few Maoist groups in India that are trying to start a revolution as well... They certainly don't see India as anything but capitalist.

wrongc0ntinent 13y ago
Indeed, the communist party in India is about as militant as they come. You're probably referring to the naxalites[0], they're not shy about targeted violence[1], especially since they're active in a lot of poor, "backward" [2] areas that go ignored by the central government until there is an industrial resource to exploit. [0] http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naxalite http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naxalite [1] http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naxalite%E2%80%93Maoist_insurgency http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naxalite%E2%80%93Maoist_insur... [2] http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2013-09-27/news/42427766_1_special-category-status-raghuram-rajan-backwardness http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2013-09-27/news... Edited to include a reference to "backward" - a term used in official language.
- steveklabnik 13y ago
  Yes, this is exactly what I was thinking of, thank you.