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So if your fellow citizen disagrees with you on what's fair, would you personally visit his house and extract that 50% out of his pocket?

by snitko 13y ago

scotty79 13y ago
I think the proper way would be to take force buy his house and land for 50% of the value and transport him to the border of the country. Then kick him out. If you live somewhere you have to observe the rules of the society there. If the rule is 50% tax then that's it. "But I don't wanna." and "It's not fair." are not the valid points. It's not like it was in eastern block countries that you couldn't leave. Humans are social species. The reason you can own things is that people sort of agreed over the years that it's beneficial for the society to allow you to decide about what's to be done with some things. Within reasonable bounds of course. If you decide to slaughter the cow you own and use the remains to create biohazard you can expect to be disowned of some stuff pretty quickly.
- snitko 13y ago
  So there are around 10% of libertarians in the US. Would you say it would be fair to give those libertarians 10% of the land the US owns and let them live there as a separate country? After all, they have no less rights for the land of the country you live in than you, they were born here.
  - scotty79 13y ago
    People who in reality own things are the ones with the army. Almost every group of people who chose to disobey their respective governments quickly discovered that. I see no point why US government should give libertarians any land it controls. Unless it's a small wasteland and libertarians could practically threaten the government in any way as US citizens so it would be beneficial to kick them out of the system. And the whole "fair" thing basically ends as you graduate from high-school or college. Adults like to talk about it but don't practically concern themselves with it when they do business.
    - snitko 13y ago
      I think it's a great point. You've just demonstrated very eloquently how people with guns and monopoly on power simply don't give a shit about anybody else who tends to disagree with them.

So if your fellow citizen disagrees with you on what's fair, would you personally visit his house and extract that 50% out of his pocket?

by snitko 13y ago

So if your fellow citizen disagrees with you on what's fair, would you personally visit his house and extract that 50% out of his pocket?

scotty79 13y ago

I think the proper way would be to take force buy his house and land for 50% of the value and transport him to the border of the country. Then kick him out. If you live somewhere you have to observe the rules of the society there. If the rule is 50% tax then that's it. "But I don't wanna." and "It's not fair." are not the valid points. It's not like it was in eastern block countries that you couldn't leave. Humans are social species. The reason you can own things is that people sort of agreed over the years that it's beneficial for the society to allow you to decide about what's to be done with some things. Within reasonable bounds of course. If you decide to slaughter the cow you own and use the remains to create biohazard you can expect to be disowned of some stuff pretty quickly.

snitko 13y ago
So there are around 10% of libertarians in the US. Would you say it would be fair to give those libertarians 10% of the land the US owns and let them live there as a separate country? After all, they have no less rights for the land of the country you live in than you, they were born here.
- scotty79 13y ago
  People who in reality own things are the ones with the army. Almost every group of people who chose to disobey their respective governments quickly discovered that. I see no point why US government should give libertarians any land it controls. Unless it's a small wasteland and libertarians could practically threaten the government in any way as US citizens so it would be beneficial to kick them out of the system. And the whole "fair" thing basically ends as you graduate from high-school or college. Adults like to talk about it but don't practically concern themselves with it when they do business.
  - snitko 13y ago
    I think it's a great point. You've just demonstrated very eloquently how people with guns and monopoly on power simply don't give a shit about anybody else who tends to disagree with them.