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You let it sound as if it would be such a great hazzle to setup a website, yet websites and comment sections existed for so much longer then disqus. And guess w
by buster 13y ago
You let it sound as if it would be such a great hazzle to setup a website, yet websites and comment sections existed for so much longer then disqus. And guess what, spam also existed back then!
Ok, i get it, people are just to lazy to do that work (but they find the time to integrate disqus...) but from my point of view they are leading me to a website i don't want to use at all. Disqus is like a hidden website embedded in the one i want to visit. The difference is that I know that and i block that. Other people use that service and might not even recognize that they are leaving their tracks on some other website they don't even know about. And in contrast to the usual ad/cookie tracking they might even leave their email address there.
And seriously... an easy to setup CMS, that has a "user identity system, optional openID, an anti spam measure like recaptcha"? Does such a feature-beast even exist amongst the quadrillion CMS that exist since the dawn of time? (<-- sarcasm)
When i go to blogger or tumblr or wordpress and leave a comment i am aware that i leave a comment on that site, and only on that site. That's a big difference. To me at least.
From my point of view the hoster of a website is somewhat responsible for my user data. He shall not send my password to some other party, or he shall not send my email to some other party, etc. Using disqus only shows that he doesn't really care to the extent i would wish my data to be handled.
Of course it is up to me to use disqus, but, as i mentioned, 99% of people wouldn't know what is happening.
- lewaldman 13y ago> Of course it is up to me to use disqus, but, as i mentioned, 99% of people wouldn't know what is happening. Not intending to sound ofensive nor harsh but 99% of people don't really care with what is happening. And... as an experienced sysadmin (+15 years), I really disagree that get a VPS+Nginx+Apache+WP+MySQL+OAuth+Akismet running, and them, maintening it long term is as trivial as some Github/Tumblr pages (or a static site generator) with a pasted JS in the bottom of the theme file. edit: added WP to the list of things to setup.
- buster 13y agoPeople don't really care because they don't "get" new technology. That doesn't mean you shouldn't care. One could even say that it is up to us (the tech-savy hacker news surfing sysadmins) to do the right thing. Why WP? See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6822766 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6822766 As an experienced sysadmin you are telling me that setting up some basic blog with commenting takes a long time? Why would you even need nginx?! (or apache for that matter)