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This was a while ago, but Gandi disabled my account - with no warnings - for running a Tor node on one of my VPSes. I then had to send a copy of my passport to

by quasque 13y ago

This was a while ago, but Gandi disabled my account - with no warnings - for running a Tor node on one of my VPSes. I then had to send a copy of my passport to eventually get it reenabled. The frustrating thing was that they were also my domain registrar, so during that time I lost all access to my domains as well. I transferred my domains away after that and decided it wasn't wise to mix services together due to this risk. So now I have domains with Tucows, DNS with Hurricane Electric and VPS with a provider that only does VPS. And I don't bother running Tor nodes any more.

mz23in 13y ago
Maybe not for running a Tor node, but Gandi may have received complaints about traffic on this node ? Gandi allows any service to be run on its platform, abuse is not allowed as it isn't on other provider. Thus, they must do the necessary legal operations according to the law, policies and their contract.
- Spooky23 13y ago
  Not quite. Gandi has a morals clause in their ToS. From the Gandi blog: (http://www.gandibar.net/post/2007/01/11/Gandi-fights-back-against-domain-abuse http://www.gandibar.net/post/2007/01/11/Gandi-fights-back-ag...) Domains registered with Gandi must be used in accordance with the rights of third parties (copyrights, intellectual property rights, personality rights, etc.), and current applicable laws and regulations. For example, Gandi does not tolerate activity that is morally objectionable or that poses a threat to public order, that spreads Computer Contaminants (Viruses, Trojans, etc.), and/or that engages in fraudulent activity such as Identity Theft. Some of these things are fairly broad and vague. There's the whole grey area of speech that may or may not violate the rights of a third party. Then you have the whole "public order" thing. Plus, you're potentially dealing with French legal standards, which may be very different than the US standards that I'm used to.
- quasque 13y ago
  Yes, I had severely underestimated the amount of bad traffic that would pass through a Tor exit node.
radimm 13y ago
Thanks! This is actually very important as I do use them for my 'important' domains as well. Even though I can't foresee any problem like this, it's something to keep an eye on.
Qantourisc 13y ago
Can you provide more details about your situation ?
- quasque 13y ago
  Here's the email exchange with Gandi: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ra00BxXM http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ra00BxXM

by quasque 13y ago

mz23in 13y ago

Maybe not for running a Tor node, but Gandi may have received complaints about traffic on this node ? Gandi allows any service to be run on its platform, abuse is not allowed as it isn't on other provider. Thus, they must do the necessary legal operations according to the law, policies and their contract.

Spooky23 13y ago
Not quite. Gandi has a morals clause in their ToS. From the Gandi blog: (http://www.gandibar.net/post/2007/01/11/Gandi-fights-back-against-domain-abuse http://www.gandibar.net/post/2007/01/11/Gandi-fights-back-ag...) Domains registered with Gandi must be used in accordance with the rights of third parties (copyrights, intellectual property rights, personality rights, etc.), and current applicable laws and regulations. For example, Gandi does not tolerate activity that is morally objectionable or that poses a threat to public order, that spreads Computer Contaminants (Viruses, Trojans, etc.), and/or that engages in fraudulent activity such as Identity Theft. Some of these things are fairly broad and vague. There's the whole grey area of speech that may or may not violate the rights of a third party. Then you have the whole "public order" thing. Plus, you're potentially dealing with French legal standards, which may be very different than the US standards that I'm used to.
quasque 13y ago
Yes, I had severely underestimated the amount of bad traffic that would pass through a Tor exit node.

radimm 13y ago

Thanks! This is actually very important as I do use them for my 'important' domains as well. Even though I can't foresee any problem like this, it's something to keep an eye on.

Qantourisc 13y ago

Can you provide more details about your situation ?

quasque 13y ago
Here's the email exchange with Gandi: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ra00BxXM http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ra00BxXM