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Lantern proxied sites lists – China

21 points by zmh 13y ago

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spindritf 13y ago
> hulu.com > pandora.com That seems superfluous.
_Adam 13y ago
Google is blocked. How do they get anything done?
- mhurron 13y ago
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baidu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baidu
- United857 13y ago
  This list is much too broad -- Google is NOT universally blocked in China. Rather, they look for forbidden keywords in queries and block results.
  - cholmesny 13y ago
    See my other comment here. The list was made not to inform what is blocked, but to configure a piece of circumvention software. It's easier for us in the early days to just proxy all of google from a friend's computer than to just send particular queries. The source list from autoproxy is much better with the queries and parts of google that are blocked.
DocG 13y ago
These 35105 webpages are blocked in Turkey, almost EU country. http://engelliweb.com/ http://engelliweb.com/
- emilv 13y ago
  Turkey will probably not become a member of the union any day soon, though.
  - DocG 13y ago
    True, but it is still interesting that they have so controlled environment. We don't talk about things that are going on in Turkey, because Turkish government is supportive of western world. They get away with some interesting things. (I'm here only temporarily 6 months, so it is different view point from people who live here)
EliRivers 13y ago
Djangosnippets is clearly just too dangerous for the Chinese people to be allowed access. Having seen what some people have done with Django, I'm not completely unsympathetic to this view :p
- est 13y ago
  It's EC2 IP, some other "unwanted" site is sharing the IP address.
largehotcoffee 13y ago
Awesome! I made the list~ But do I have to go to China to get the reward?
- analyst74 13y ago
  yes, please surrender yourself at the airport police, indicating that you are a wanted international terrorist by Chinese National Security, you will be promptly delivered to your reward.
yapcguy 13y ago
I'm surprised Russia wasn't thrown in there too. Why it is always the usual suspects of China and Iran? Why don't we get to see a list of webpages blocked by Western countries? Who is the team responsible for GetLantern and who is funding the developers?
- samplonius 13y ago
  How many "western countries" (whatever that means these days) actually have black lists? Because Canada and the US do not, as the Internet is all provided by non-gov't telco's. Chinatel is the only telco in China allowed to have international trunks, and Chinatel is 51% owned by the gov't. No one even knows how many international trunks Canada and the US even have, as they aren't regulated. At least mostly. In Canada, long distance phone carriers must register. But data over fibre is totally unregulated.
  - subsystem 13y ago
    This should give some indication. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countries_blocking_access_to_The_Pirate_Bay http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countries_blocking_access_to_Th...
- zmh 13y ago
  Originally "seeded by Google Ideas, it was built by developers at University of Washington and Brave New Software.". See: http://techpresident.com/news/wegov/24455/why-remarkably-similar-circumvention-tools-uproxy-and-lantern-are-not-overkill http://techpresident.com/news/wegov/24455/why-remarkably-sim...
  - deleted 13y ago
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runn1ng 13y ago
> adultfriendfinder.com What? Why would anyone block that >porn.com >porn2.com >pornbase.org >pornhub.com >pornmm.net >pornoxo.com >pornrapidshare.com >pornstarclub.com >porntube.com >pornvisit.com What? Why?
- mmagin 13y ago
  The PRC government doesn't like porn. Here's an article that touches on that: http://www.dailylife.com.au/news-and-views/news-features/a-land-where-porn-doesnt-exist-20121003-26yiy.html http://www.dailylife.com.au/news-and-views/news-features/a-l...
  - snnn 13y ago
    And they also blocked python.org, freebsd.org, sourceforge.org,google code. Orz...
maxk42 13y ago
Man, China really hates streaming music services.
- mmagin 13y ago
  More likely streaming music services have various agreements which only allow them to operate in select countries. I recall that when I was visiting Canada in 2010, I had to proxy my traffic back to the US to use Pandora.
  - samplonius 13y ago
    It is not up to countries to enforce Pandora's contract though.
  - dfrey 13y ago
    While this is true, I (in Canada) can still go to pandora.com and I just get a message saying that the service isn't available in my region.
- thewalkingdead 13y ago
  They don't. It depends on these services having agreements to sell their business in China. And FWIW they can always use QQ music which is pretty much most Chinese use anyway.
  - snnn 13y ago
    Yes. It is not related to political reasons.
    - zmh 13y ago
      How do you know? I know they blocked YouTube and liveleak for political reasons.
- est 13y ago
  You can access those music sites fine, it just shows "not available in your country". Adding music sites to the list is a good nice "side-effect" to use these service since most of proxy exits are US based.
cholmesny 13y ago
Hey, I put that list up. All credit for that list goes to http://autoproxy-gfwlist.googlecode.com http://autoproxy-gfwlist.googlecode.com. I just used the firefox plugin and extracted that list with some regex and de-duplication. I made the list for http://getlantern.orga http://getlantern.orga censorship circumvention app I work on. So the list is designed to work with our app, and it's easier to just use the whole domain than the domains that are blocked. Contributions welcome, we just want more of these types of lists for users in China to plug in to their Lantern's.
- zmh 13y ago
  3 days after the launch, there have been 8500 users, mostly chinese users. Some reported that they joined twitter the first time. They are hoping more users join from overseas to help the speed.
- rurounijones 13y ago
  How is Lantern different from tor?
  - cholmesny 13y ago
    Lantern's main goal is fast access, Tor's is anonymity. We know the Tor developers, and recommend their tool for when people must be anonymous and secure. Lantern aims more at mainstream users who just want to avoid censors for fast access to the open web. It also uses some different approaches, see https://github.com/getlantern/lantern/wiki/%5Bdevelopers%5D-Questions-and-Answers https://github.com/getlantern/lantern/wiki/%5Bdevelopers%5D-... for some info on the tech.
    - rurounijones 13y ago
      Many thanks for the information.
- est 13y ago
  Oh God please stop this. Autoproxy using encoded format[1] for a reason: Avoid getting Google Code or Github getting blocked. Your plain text list will lead to total blocking of Github, All it takes is some random assholes to "report" Github to http://net.china.com.cn/ http://net.china.com.cn/ and oops, github IP will be inaccessible indefinitely. Just find another way please! [1]: https://code.google.com/p/autoproxy-gfwlist/source/browse/trunk/gfwlist.txt https://code.google.com/p/autoproxy-gfwlist/source/browse/tr...
emilv 13y ago
The fact that Bloglovin is on that list must mean we're doing something right. The blogosphere is all about taking control over both production and consumption of media.

21 points by zmh 13y ago

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spindritf 13y ago

> hulu.com > pandora.com That seems superfluous.

_Adam 13y ago

Google is blocked. How do they get anything done?

mhurron 13y ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baidu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baidu
United857 13y ago
This list is much too broad -- Google is NOT universally blocked in China. Rather, they look for forbidden keywords in queries and block results.
- cholmesny 13y ago
  See my other comment here. The list was made not to inform what is blocked, but to configure a piece of circumvention software. It's easier for us in the early days to just proxy all of google from a friend's computer than to just send particular queries. The source list from autoproxy is much better with the queries and parts of google that are blocked.

DocG 13y ago

These 35105 webpages are blocked in Turkey, almost EU country. http://engelliweb.com/ http://engelliweb.com/

emilv 13y ago
Turkey will probably not become a member of the union any day soon, though.
- DocG 13y ago
  True, but it is still interesting that they have so controlled environment. We don't talk about things that are going on in Turkey, because Turkish government is supportive of western world. They get away with some interesting things. (I'm here only temporarily 6 months, so it is different view point from people who live here)

EliRivers 13y ago

Djangosnippets is clearly just too dangerous for the Chinese people to be allowed access. Having seen what some people have done with Django, I'm not completely unsympathetic to this view :p

est 13y ago
It's EC2 IP, some other "unwanted" site is sharing the IP address.

largehotcoffee 13y ago

Awesome! I made the list~ But do I have to go to China to get the reward?

analyst74 13y ago
yes, please surrender yourself at the airport police, indicating that you are a wanted international terrorist by Chinese National Security, you will be promptly delivered to your reward.

yapcguy 13y ago

I'm surprised Russia wasn't thrown in there too. Why it is always the usual suspects of China and Iran? Why don't we get to see a list of webpages blocked by Western countries? Who is the team responsible for GetLantern and who is funding the developers?

samplonius 13y ago
How many "western countries" (whatever that means these days) actually have black lists? Because Canada and the US do not, as the Internet is all provided by non-gov't telco's. Chinatel is the only telco in China allowed to have international trunks, and Chinatel is 51% owned by the gov't. No one even knows how many international trunks Canada and the US even have, as they aren't regulated. At least mostly. In Canada, long distance phone carriers must register. But data over fibre is totally unregulated.
- subsystem 13y ago
  This should give some indication. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countries_blocking_access_to_The_Pirate_Bay http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countries_blocking_access_to_Th...
zmh 13y ago
Originally "seeded by Google Ideas, it was built by developers at University of Washington and Brave New Software.". See: http://techpresident.com/news/wegov/24455/why-remarkably-similar-circumvention-tools-uproxy-and-lantern-are-not-overkill http://techpresident.com/news/wegov/24455/why-remarkably-sim...
- deleted 13y ago
  [deleted]

runn1ng 13y ago

> adultfriendfinder.com What? Why would anyone block that >porn.com >porn2.com >pornbase.org >pornhub.com >pornmm.net >pornoxo.com >pornrapidshare.com >pornstarclub.com >porntube.com >pornvisit.com What? Why?

mmagin 13y ago
The PRC government doesn't like porn. Here's an article that touches on that: http://www.dailylife.com.au/news-and-views/news-features/a-land-where-porn-doesnt-exist-20121003-26yiy.html http://www.dailylife.com.au/news-and-views/news-features/a-l...
- snnn 13y ago
  And they also blocked python.org, freebsd.org, sourceforge.org,google code. Orz...

maxk42 13y ago

Man, China really hates streaming music services.

mmagin 13y ago
More likely streaming music services have various agreements which only allow them to operate in select countries. I recall that when I was visiting Canada in 2010, I had to proxy my traffic back to the US to use Pandora.
- samplonius 13y ago
  It is not up to countries to enforce Pandora's contract though.
- dfrey 13y ago
  While this is true, I (in Canada) can still go to pandora.com and I just get a message saying that the service isn't available in my region.
thewalkingdead 13y ago
They don't. It depends on these services having agreements to sell their business in China. And FWIW they can always use QQ music which is pretty much most Chinese use anyway.
- snnn 13y ago
  Yes. It is not related to political reasons.
  - zmh 13y ago
    How do you know? I know they blocked YouTube and liveleak for political reasons.
est 13y ago
You can access those music sites fine, it just shows "not available in your country". Adding music sites to the list is a good nice "side-effect" to use these service since most of proxy exits are US based.

cholmesny 13y ago

Hey, I put that list up. All credit for that list goes to http://autoproxy-gfwlist.googlecode.com http://autoproxy-gfwlist.googlecode.com. I just used the firefox plugin and extracted that list with some regex and de-duplication. I made the list for http://getlantern.orga http://getlantern.orga censorship circumvention app I work on. So the list is designed to work with our app, and it's easier to just use the whole domain than the domains that are blocked. Contributions welcome, we just want more of these types of lists for users in China to plug in to their Lantern's.

zmh 13y ago
3 days after the launch, there have been 8500 users, mostly chinese users. Some reported that they joined twitter the first time. They are hoping more users join from overseas to help the speed.
rurounijones 13y ago
How is Lantern different from tor?
- cholmesny 13y ago
  Lantern's main goal is fast access, Tor's is anonymity. We know the Tor developers, and recommend their tool for when people must be anonymous and secure. Lantern aims more at mainstream users who just want to avoid censors for fast access to the open web. It also uses some different approaches, see https://github.com/getlantern/lantern/wiki/%5Bdevelopers%5D-Questions-and-Answers https://github.com/getlantern/lantern/wiki/%5Bdevelopers%5D-... for some info on the tech.
  - rurounijones 13y ago
    Many thanks for the information.
est 13y ago
Oh God please stop this. Autoproxy using encoded format[1] for a reason: Avoid getting Google Code or Github getting blocked. Your plain text list will lead to total blocking of Github, All it takes is some random assholes to "report" Github to http://net.china.com.cn/ http://net.china.com.cn/ and oops, github IP will be inaccessible indefinitely. Just find another way please! [1]: https://code.google.com/p/autoproxy-gfwlist/source/browse/trunk/gfwlist.txt https://code.google.com/p/autoproxy-gfwlist/source/browse/tr...

emilv 13y ago

The fact that Bloglovin is on that list must mean we're doing something right. The blogosphere is all about taking control over both production and consumption of media.