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I wonder if Apple went this way because of the supply chain more than anything. All indications are that Apple will be moving 2-3x more iPad minis than these co

I wonder if Apple went this way because of the supply chain more than anything. All indications are that Apple will be moving 2-3x more iPad minis than these competitors. I'm curious if they went with the safer IGZO panel because those other technologies just don't ramp up as well.

r0h1n 13y ago
I find it curious and funny that it's always Apple that gets such benefits of doubt. When they have the best hardware, it's because they're years ahead of everyone else in their supply chain strategies. When they have the worst, it's because they must be hobbled by the same supply chain. Would you have expressed the same comment for Google/Amazon if the Nexus or Kindle had the worst screen?
- lostlogin 13y ago
  I wouldn't have - because they won't be selling anywhere near as many. What do you do if you have a choice to sell a few of a great product, or heaps of a slightly inferior one? I know which I'd choose, but Apple took the money and ran. I don't know what the figures will be, but I'd bet an order of magnitude more iPads are sold. Can the manufacturers of the better screen produce that many? I'm guessing no, but someone out there knows the answer.
  - r0h1n 13y ago
    So you're saying Apple's decision to put an older generation screen on the iPad Mini is justifiable because they still manage to sell many more than competitors who have gone out of their way to put in better hardware into their own products? And you're saying this as an Apple customer?
    - djt 13y ago
      Yes. People don't purchase the iPad alone, but for the ecosystem. I moved to Android but just bought an iPad as it has an App I need for work that isnt available on any Tablet OS. Thats why theyre able to do it and still win over the others.
- interpol_p 13y ago
  I think giving them the benefit of doubt is wrong here, but expecting Apple to sell the best hardware is also misguided. Apple has never been about selling the latest and greatest hardware, they have always been about selling the hardware that works well enough to satisfy their standards. They have always had high standards for colour accuracy, the rest of the industry has caught up and moved past them, but they will continue to ship what they think is "good enough". People like Apple because their "good enough" is usually of a very high standard. Same thing for retina displays, Apple introduced them and did a lot of work to allow for their existence (especially in pushing Intel to develop stronger integrated GPUs, developing drivers). Now the industry has caught up and surpassed Apple in pixel density — but Apple doesn't care because they are not competing on pixel density — it's at the point where it's good enough for their products.
- shinratdr 13y ago
  No, because Google & Amazon don't ship nearly as many tablets. You're pretty much asking "Would you feel the same if the situation was completely different?" and I can safely say no to that. Apple gets those benefits of the doubt because they're one of very few companies that ships tens of millions of a single product. Your comment is also filled with intentionally obnoxious absolutes. I never said that this is the case, or surely it must be, I'm just speculating. I'm more than willing to entertain the idea that they did it simply to keep fab costs low and margins high. Maybe if Google or Amazon delivered consistently or shipped similar numbers, people would give them the benefit of the doubt. One good generation each isn't exactly enough to build confidence.
djt 13y ago
may be the only technology they could get for the price/quantity. At the end of the day most people dont care if they screen is 20% better, they want the functionality

r0h1n 13y ago

I find it curious and funny that it's always Apple that gets such benefits of doubt. When they have the best hardware, it's because they're years ahead of everyone else in their supply chain strategies. When they have the worst, it's because they must be hobbled by the same supply chain. Would you have expressed the same comment for Google/Amazon if the Nexus or Kindle had the worst screen?

lostlogin 13y ago
I wouldn't have - because they won't be selling anywhere near as many. What do you do if you have a choice to sell a few of a great product, or heaps of a slightly inferior one? I know which I'd choose, but Apple took the money and ran. I don't know what the figures will be, but I'd bet an order of magnitude more iPads are sold. Can the manufacturers of the better screen produce that many? I'm guessing no, but someone out there knows the answer.
- r0h1n 13y ago
  So you're saying Apple's decision to put an older generation screen on the iPad Mini is justifiable because they still manage to sell many more than competitors who have gone out of their way to put in better hardware into their own products? And you're saying this as an Apple customer?
  - djt 13y ago
    Yes. People don't purchase the iPad alone, but for the ecosystem. I moved to Android but just bought an iPad as it has an App I need for work that isnt available on any Tablet OS. Thats why theyre able to do it and still win over the others.
interpol_p 13y ago
I think giving them the benefit of doubt is wrong here, but expecting Apple to sell the best hardware is also misguided. Apple has never been about selling the latest and greatest hardware, they have always been about selling the hardware that works well enough to satisfy their standards. They have always had high standards for colour accuracy, the rest of the industry has caught up and moved past them, but they will continue to ship what they think is "good enough". People like Apple because their "good enough" is usually of a very high standard. Same thing for retina displays, Apple introduced them and did a lot of work to allow for their existence (especially in pushing Intel to develop stronger integrated GPUs, developing drivers). Now the industry has caught up and surpassed Apple in pixel density — but Apple doesn't care because they are not competing on pixel density — it's at the point where it's good enough for their products.
shinratdr 13y ago
No, because Google & Amazon don't ship nearly as many tablets. You're pretty much asking "Would you feel the same if the situation was completely different?" and I can safely say no to that. Apple gets those benefits of the doubt because they're one of very few companies that ships tens of millions of a single product. Your comment is also filled with intentionally obnoxious absolutes. I never said that this is the case, or surely it must be, I'm just speculating. I'm more than willing to entertain the idea that they did it simply to keep fab costs low and margins high. Maybe if Google or Amazon delivered consistently or shipped similar numbers, people would give them the benefit of the doubt. One good generation each isn't exactly enough to build confidence.

djt 13y ago

may be the only technology they could get for the price/quantity. At the end of the day most people dont care if they screen is 20% better, they want the functionality