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On the homepage "Jolla.com" it says: Jolla is powered by Sailfish OS, a truly open and distinct mobile operating system. Navigate effortlessly with the gesture-

by jggonz 13y ago

On the homepage "Jolla.com" it says: Jolla is powered by Sailfish OS, a truly open and distinct mobile operating system. Navigate effortlessly with the gesture-based user interface and load the phone with top Android™ apps. So it is a phone since they call it a phone. :)

millerc 13y ago
Beyond that simple statement, I'd agree with Jason. My first impression upon reading their webpage was "why?" Scrolling through I didn't find an answer. No differentiator in apps, function, power, memory or price. I've often been wrong when I wondered that about a product, for this once I genuinely would like to know if there's an answer to the question. Why a new phone called Jolla?
jasonkester 13y ago
Imagine the difference had they said "Jolla is a smart phone powered by Sailfish OS, a truly open and distinct mobile operating system. Navigate effortlessly with the gesture-based user interface and load it with top Android™ apps." rather than bury the most important point on the whole website as a single word at the end of a long paragraph full of technical jargon. That would qualify as calling it a phone. Better still would be "Jolla is a smart phone", dispensing with 28 unnecessary words. Hopefully somebody at their end has the homepage up in an editor and can make the fix.
- tixocloud 13y ago
  Agreed although I would push them further to communicate the value proposition for me as a potential customer. Why do I care? Why do I need a Jolla smart phone? What makes it so different? Skip the features and tell me how it's going to change my life and the way I do things for the better.
- jggonz 13y ago
  I totally agree with you... and my comment was in no way a praise for their marketing team. I actually couldn't tell from the image if it was a phone or not. I had to actually hunt for the word phone. It could have been an 'iPod Touch' clone.
- jemeshsu 13y ago
  My first impression, thought Jolla is a user interface skin build on top of Sailfish OS due to the highlight of "gesture based".
001sky 13y ago
Right now there are 50+ comments that all seem to be some variation of 'WTF'. Whose hardware is up & running sailfish? Or is this more vapourware? The page looks pre-launch still... We'll notify you when Jolla is available to order... [?]
pseudometa 13y ago
I'm confused too. I don't understand if they are a manufacturer selling the phone directly to customers, or if they are an OEM selling to carriers. It looks like it is different than android, but it runs android apps? Is this another skin for android that is tied to the physical device?
- xerophtye 13y ago
  Here, use this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6809444 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6809444
Angostura 13y ago
Not all, it is perfectly possible to read this as saying that a phone running Jolla is capable of running Android apps. It's entirely possible to interpret the blurb as saying that Jolla is some kind of framework running on an OS called Sailfish, which adds Android compatibility and a gesture-based UI.

by jggonz 13y ago

millerc 13y ago

Beyond that simple statement, I'd agree with Jason. My first impression upon reading their webpage was "why?" Scrolling through I didn't find an answer. No differentiator in apps, function, power, memory or price. I've often been wrong when I wondered that about a product, for this once I genuinely would like to know if there's an answer to the question. Why a new phone called Jolla?

jasonkester 13y ago

Imagine the difference had they said "Jolla is a smart phone powered by Sailfish OS, a truly open and distinct mobile operating system. Navigate effortlessly with the gesture-based user interface and load it with top Android™ apps." rather than bury the most important point on the whole website as a single word at the end of a long paragraph full of technical jargon. That would qualify as calling it a phone. Better still would be "Jolla is a smart phone", dispensing with 28 unnecessary words. Hopefully somebody at their end has the homepage up in an editor and can make the fix.

tixocloud 13y ago
Agreed although I would push them further to communicate the value proposition for me as a potential customer. Why do I care? Why do I need a Jolla smart phone? What makes it so different? Skip the features and tell me how it's going to change my life and the way I do things for the better.
jggonz 13y ago
I totally agree with you... and my comment was in no way a praise for their marketing team. I actually couldn't tell from the image if it was a phone or not. I had to actually hunt for the word phone. It could have been an 'iPod Touch' clone.
jemeshsu 13y ago
My first impression, thought Jolla is a user interface skin build on top of Sailfish OS due to the highlight of "gesture based".

001sky 13y ago

Right now there are 50+ comments that all seem to be some variation of 'WTF'. Whose hardware is up & running sailfish? Or is this more vapourware? The page looks pre-launch still... We'll notify you when Jolla is available to order... [?]

pseudometa 13y ago

I'm confused too. I don't understand if they are a manufacturer selling the phone directly to customers, or if they are an OEM selling to carriers. It looks like it is different than android, but it runs android apps? Is this another skin for android that is tied to the physical device?

xerophtye 13y ago
Here, use this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6809444 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6809444

Angostura 13y ago

Not all, it is perfectly possible to read this as saying that a phone running Jolla is capable of running Android apps. It's entirely possible to interpret the blurb as saying that Jolla is some kind of framework running on an OS called Sailfish, which adds Android compatibility and a gesture-based UI.