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Money is just one form of compensation. PA offers a matching 401(k), my company doesn't. PA offers what seems to be a pretty sweet working environment, my compa

Money is just one form of compensation. PA offers a matching 401(k), my company doesn't. PA offers what seems to be a pretty sweet working environment, my company doesn't. PA might have some interesting/hard problems to solve, I'm stuck making CRUD apps for customers that just don't care. People can complain about the (allegedly, nobody knows what they're paying yet) low salary all they want, but that's only one piece of the puzzle.

nbuggia 13y ago
Yes, it is so sweet they expect that you will find it offensive: "- You should have no problems working in a creative and potentially offensive environment."
- BHSPitMonkey 13y ago
  If you're familiar with the webcomic or the blog, you'd recognize that this is probably a reference to off-color language and humor that undoubtedly is typical of their work environment. This doesn't actually offend me at all, but the rest of the job posting does.
- swombat 13y ago
  GrantTree is a pretty cool and relaxed environment. And it's occasionally offensive. That's part of not being a boring and uptight environment.
- SheepSlapper 13y ago
  Comedians tend to offend once in a while, it's part of the gig. And PA is smack in the middle of the comedy/video game business, sometimes they might trample your delicate sensibilities[1]. As someone who isn't easily offended, that sounds a hundred times better than working in a constant state of fear that you're not being PC enough. But, to each his/her own. At least they're upfront about it, so potential candidates know what they're getting into. Doesn't sound like the environment you want? Don't apply. [1] http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/09/penny-arcade-expo-dickwolves/ http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/09/penny-arcade-expo-dic...
- fragsworth 13y ago
  They make comics. Lots of comedy is about trying to find a balance between what is offensive and what people are willing to laugh at. If you're creating humorous content, then you by necessity cross the boundary into the offensive (but you don't necessarily publish it!) as part of the creative process. Otherwise you'll never strike the best balance. Consider this Onion post (NSFW) - http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-one-murdered-because-of-this-image,29553/ http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-one-murdered-because-of-... Now try to imagine what their work environment must be like.
- daemin 13y ago
  I assume what they mean by that is the work environment will resemble what they've put on camera in their PA TV and other series. It will probably be both more mundane and more "offensive" than what is shown on screen, so the goal would be to find someone that can handle the situation.
- sirmarksalot 13y ago
  I'm okay with that as long as it cuts both ways. For example, I will work for you under the understanding that I will keep giving you shit about the "dickwolves" thing until you finally understand what you did wrong -- and no, you don't have to give your kids' entire college savings away to charity.
  - johnbm 13y ago
    "I am an absolute moral authority. Apologizing and shutting up is the only acceptable response when I am pissed off. Any protestation will be taken as further evidence of your complicity." Or maybe you're just a self-centred special snowflake. http://virtuallyantifeminism.blogspot.ca/2013/09/pax-being-raped-to-sleep-by-dickwolves.html http://virtuallyantifeminism.blogspot.ca/2013/09/pax-being-r...
    - sirmarksalot 13y ago
      "I'm happy with the status quo, so I'm going to write condescending remarks that could equally apply to anyone who has ever felt the need to stand up for somebody else."
sebkomianos 13y ago
- We are quite literally looking for a person that can do four jobs: Web Development, Software Development, Sys Admin, and the (dreaded) GENERAL IT for us here that need help configuring a firewall for a dev kit, etc. - [...] and don’t mind having a really bad sense of work-life balance, this is the job for you. - You should have no problems working in a creative and potentially offensive environment. - It’s rarely we call on it, but if something breaks in the middle of the night, you are expected to be on call to address that issue 24/7. That's four pieces of the puzzle already.
- sliverstorm 13y ago
  Some people like working many different roles. What's that thing the startup folks always say about early hires- "You get to wear many different hats"? Some people like creative/potentially offensive environments. I'm guessing they aren't saying "We are all assholes and will treat you like shit", they are saying "We don't worry too much about political correctness" or something along those lines.
  - danenania 13y ago
    And Lebron James likes playing basketball. That doesn't mean he'll do it for $50k per year. Someone who meets the qualifications PA has listed can easily get a six figure salary plus stock and benefits at any number of cool companies with interesting problems to work on, nice offices, and fun cultures. PA won't get good developers to apply with this listing. They'll get people who are desperate for work and willing to misrepresent their experience and ability. Bullshit begets bullshit.
    - SheepSlapper 13y ago
      I'm working a job that pays $100k a year, and I'm miserable. I've never had more fun working a job in my life than when I was working in a PA-esque environment (as far as I can tell, it was a very anti-PC office) making $60k a year. Money isn't everything, and there's something to be said about waking up every morning excited to go to work. Also, how many software developers do you know that'd be doing what we do even if it paid $30k a year? Because I sure as hell would. Lebron might even be ballin' for $50 a year, if he loves it enough. And that's kind of the whole point of the job posting: if you're in it for the money then PA doesn't want ya, and you probably don't want PA.

nbuggia 13y ago

Yes, it is so sweet they expect that you will find it offensive: "- You should have no problems working in a creative and potentially offensive environment."

BHSPitMonkey 13y ago
If you're familiar with the webcomic or the blog, you'd recognize that this is probably a reference to off-color language and humor that undoubtedly is typical of their work environment. This doesn't actually offend me at all, but the rest of the job posting does.
swombat 13y ago
GrantTree is a pretty cool and relaxed environment. And it's occasionally offensive. That's part of not being a boring and uptight environment.
SheepSlapper 13y ago
Comedians tend to offend once in a while, it's part of the gig. And PA is smack in the middle of the comedy/video game business, sometimes they might trample your delicate sensibilities[1]. As someone who isn't easily offended, that sounds a hundred times better than working in a constant state of fear that you're not being PC enough. But, to each his/her own. At least they're upfront about it, so potential candidates know what they're getting into. Doesn't sound like the environment you want? Don't apply. [1] http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/09/penny-arcade-expo-dickwolves/ http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/09/penny-arcade-expo-dic...
fragsworth 13y ago
They make comics. Lots of comedy is about trying to find a balance between what is offensive and what people are willing to laugh at. If you're creating humorous content, then you by necessity cross the boundary into the offensive (but you don't necessarily publish it!) as part of the creative process. Otherwise you'll never strike the best balance. Consider this Onion post (NSFW) - http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-one-murdered-because-of-this-image,29553/ http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-one-murdered-because-of-... Now try to imagine what their work environment must be like.
daemin 13y ago
I assume what they mean by that is the work environment will resemble what they've put on camera in their PA TV and other series. It will probably be both more mundane and more "offensive" than what is shown on screen, so the goal would be to find someone that can handle the situation.
sirmarksalot 13y ago
I'm okay with that as long as it cuts both ways. For example, I will work for you under the understanding that I will keep giving you shit about the "dickwolves" thing until you finally understand what you did wrong -- and no, you don't have to give your kids' entire college savings away to charity.
- johnbm 13y ago
  "I am an absolute moral authority. Apologizing and shutting up is the only acceptable response when I am pissed off. Any protestation will be taken as further evidence of your complicity." Or maybe you're just a self-centred special snowflake. http://virtuallyantifeminism.blogspot.ca/2013/09/pax-being-raped-to-sleep-by-dickwolves.html http://virtuallyantifeminism.blogspot.ca/2013/09/pax-being-r...
  - sirmarksalot 13y ago
    "I'm happy with the status quo, so I'm going to write condescending remarks that could equally apply to anyone who has ever felt the need to stand up for somebody else."

sebkomianos 13y ago

- We are quite literally looking for a person that can do four jobs: Web Development, Software Development, Sys Admin, and the (dreaded) GENERAL IT for us here that need help configuring a firewall for a dev kit, etc. - [...] and don’t mind having a really bad sense of work-life balance, this is the job for you. - You should have no problems working in a creative and potentially offensive environment. - It’s rarely we call on it, but if something breaks in the middle of the night, you are expected to be on call to address that issue 24/7. That's four pieces of the puzzle already.

sliverstorm 13y ago
Some people like working many different roles. What's that thing the startup folks always say about early hires- "You get to wear many different hats"? Some people like creative/potentially offensive environments. I'm guessing they aren't saying "We are all assholes and will treat you like shit", they are saying "We don't worry too much about political correctness" or something along those lines.
- danenania 13y ago
  And Lebron James likes playing basketball. That doesn't mean he'll do it for $50k per year. Someone who meets the qualifications PA has listed can easily get a six figure salary plus stock and benefits at any number of cool companies with interesting problems to work on, nice offices, and fun cultures. PA won't get good developers to apply with this listing. They'll get people who are desperate for work and willing to misrepresent their experience and ability. Bullshit begets bullshit.
  - SheepSlapper 13y ago
    I'm working a job that pays $100k a year, and I'm miserable. I've never had more fun working a job in my life than when I was working in a PA-esque environment (as far as I can tell, it was a very anti-PC office) making $60k a year. Money isn't everything, and there's something to be said about waking up every morning excited to go to work. Also, how many software developers do you know that'd be doing what we do even if it paid $30k a year? Because I sure as hell would. Lebron might even be ballin' for $50 a year, if he loves it enough. And that's kind of the whole point of the job posting: if you're in it for the money then PA doesn't want ya, and you probably don't want PA.