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Solid evidence that real-name policies do not necessarily improve behavior. The world has many jerks, and they're already jerks in real life with their name an
by Groxx 13y ago
Solid evidence that real-name policies do not necessarily improve behavior. The world has many jerks, and they're already jerks in real life with their name and face attached. Why should the internet be any different?
- codezero 13y agoGoogle+ really slacked off on the Real Name's policy after the public outrage. I think that if they had managed to enforce it , comments would be better, but it won't stop everyone or make any guarantee of quality, and a lot of the work to push higher quality comments could be done without enforcing/requesting real names anyways.
- dev1n 13y agoSome popular blogs and news sites use facebook as a commenting system. I think it's worse that I can figure out exactly how a real life person feels. Giving someone anonymity makes them feel less significant in my perception of their opinion. By attaching an actual name to the comment, I get a way worse feeling of the education of the general population.
- VikingCoder 13y agoThey're tried for like, a few days now, which proves it can't work!!!
- DanBC 13y agoYouTube promotes the comment: > Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Which seems like a pretty big fail.
- smtddr 13y agoyou really had to post that here? EDIT: I see the downvotes, but I still believe there are better ways to get the point across without having to create that block of text on HN.
- itsameta4 13y agoHe's just encouraging discussion.
- DanBC 13y agoYou need to see the word, 85 times, to see just how fucking hard YouTube / Google fail at comments. When you have a single racial slur repeated 85 times even an idiot should know it's not conducive to decent conversation. You don't even need to see the user avatar of a Nazi propaganda cartoon of a Jew to know it's a troll comment.
- VikingCoder 13y agoSo, to be clear, you want Google to decide what decent conversation is? Or maybe should the person who posted the video have some control over the discussion, and it should be up to them? Do you want them to remove martinlutherking.org (a horrific troll website) from the results for "MLK" as well?
- DanBC 13y agoGoogle say they want to decide what decent conversation is. That's why they started banning people from Google services. Those people were using their real names (but Google didn't believe them) or were using long established names (but that wasn't good enough for Google). Google is making many changes in order to "improve comment quality" on YouTube. And yet they still fail, really hard. > Or maybe should the person who posted the video have some control over the discussion, and it should be up to them? I guess that's easier to say when you're not getting dozens of hateful messages trolling your channel every day. But, really, if that's what Google wants (channel owners to control the channels) that's fine. Just stop banning people for using something that Google doesn't think is a real name, stop tying G+ into everything, give channel owners better tools. > Do you want them to remove martinlutherking.org (a horrific troll website) from the results for "MLK" as well? This discussion is only about YouTube comments. Why are you dragging in other irrelevant hypotheticals? Me asking you "So, you don't care if someone spraypaints 'pakis out' on someone's shop?" would be just as daft.
- Groxx 13y agoWell, and Facebook Comments all over for a while now. Those are frequently as bad as Youtube comments, and (at least in my experience) Facebook is more real-name aggro than G+.