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> You can't get a decent job without a decent education. So, what makes you think a decent job is a right, because it isn't. Most people don't go to college,

> You can't get a decent job without a decent education. So, what makes you think a decent job is a right, because it isn't. Most people don't go to college, most people get low paying and/or manual labor or service jobs. Welcome to the real world. > Kids these days are finishing school much later than their parents, and they don't have a choice. They have every choice, they can choose to not bury themselves in debt to go to a school they can't afford. If you can't afford college, don't go. > the cost of school is sky-rocketting, as it debt. See above. > there aren't very many quality, well paying jobs available to young people. Have there ever been? Really? C'mon, young people have always started at the bottom of the ladder and been shit on, overworked, and taken advantage of; that's how the system works, it isn't anything new. Seriously, this all sounds like a bunch of rich white kid whining about how hard their life is (despite being full of choices most people don't even have)... you people should just get over yourselves, most people have it much harder. Most people don't go to college, most people hate their jobs, most people make shit wages and have little hope of ever making it.

whatusername 17y ago
I think the point is comparison to parents/grandparents. Most of our parents never went to college - but could still have Dad work a blue-collar job - and still have a nice (small) house in the suburbs with a picket fence. I think part of the issue/trend is the fact that this generation might end up worse off than their parents.. that hasn't happened all that much historically (that I can think of at least)
- gnaritas 17y ago
  Yea, but in most parts of the country, one still can. Plenty of blue collar jobs pay pretty well, especially unionized ones like plumbing and welding and you make enough to do the little house and wife thing. I'm not sure the problem is times changing so much as kids expectation changing, they all think they'll grow up white collar and rich now instead of accepting the obvious. They may not overall be doing as well as their parents as a generation, but they aren't doing that much worse either.
- shpxnvz 17y ago
  ...but could still have Dad work a blue-collar job - and still have a nice (small) house in the suburbs with a picket fence Fallacy. Home ownership in the population has increased by ten percent since the 50's. Your dad had less of a chance at home ownership then than you do now.
- gnaritas 17y ago
  Also, your Dad wasn't blowing his money on cell phones and video games. Kids these days have a much harder time living within their means than their parents did, they're spoiled.

whatusername 17y ago

I think the point is comparison to parents/grandparents. Most of our parents never went to college - but could still have Dad work a blue-collar job - and still have a nice (small) house in the suburbs with a picket fence. I think part of the issue/trend is the fact that this generation might end up worse off than their parents.. that hasn't happened all that much historically (that I can think of at least)

gnaritas 17y ago
Yea, but in most parts of the country, one still can. Plenty of blue collar jobs pay pretty well, especially unionized ones like plumbing and welding and you make enough to do the little house and wife thing. I'm not sure the problem is times changing so much as kids expectation changing, they all think they'll grow up white collar and rich now instead of accepting the obvious. They may not overall be doing as well as their parents as a generation, but they aren't doing that much worse either.
shpxnvz 17y ago
...but could still have Dad work a blue-collar job - and still have a nice (small) house in the suburbs with a picket fence Fallacy. Home ownership in the population has increased by ten percent since the 50's. Your dad had less of a chance at home ownership then than you do now.
gnaritas 17y ago
Also, your Dad wasn't blowing his money on cell phones and video games. Kids these days have a much harder time living within their means than their parents did, they're spoiled.