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> otherwise this phone will be limited to 2G speeds on T-Mobile. I'm not sure what your reading, perhaps it's been changed. T-Mobile HSPA+ is fully supported

> otherwise this phone will be limited to 2G speeds on T-Mobile. I'm not sure what your reading, perhaps it's been changed. T-Mobile HSPA+ is fully supported on both bands on the US GSM Moto G phone, according to the spec sheet on their website at http://www.motorola.com/us/consumers/moto-g/Moto-G/moto-g-pdp-ways-to-buy.html http://www.motorola.com/us/consumers/moto-g/Moto-G/moto-g-pd... (It explicitly mentions PCS 1900 support, so AT&T HSPA+ and new T-Mobile HSPA+ works, and it explicitly mentions AWS 1700/(2100) support, so old T-Mobile HSPA+, Wind, Mobilicity, ect will also work)

wffurr 13y ago
Where do you see that? When I click that link, I see this for frequency band support: US GSM Model: GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz) UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 1700 (AWS), 1900 MHz) Doesn't mention the 2100 band at all, either PCS or AWS. 2100 is only listed for the international model, which lacks the 1700 AWS band. Is there a link to a more detailed spec sheet? The Motorola Razr i I am using now works with PCS on T-Mobile, but also explicitly lists the 2100 band, which I believe is required for T-Mobile HSPA+: http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_razr_i_xt890-4998.php http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_razr_i_xt890-4998.php
- maxsilver 13y ago
  > Doesn't mention the 2100 band at all, either PCS or AWS. AWS is the proper notation, and that's the phrase your looking for when looking for T-Mobile USA phones. When Motorola claims it supports "AWS", they're explicitly telling you that T-Mobile USA HSPA+ works on both bands. You won't see "1700/2100" often listed on USA phones, specifically because of the problem you just mentioned -- the 2100 band is used unpaired internationally, so it's confusing to see it listed twice, especially when those two uses are completely incompatible.
  - wffurr 13y ago
    OK - That's confusing, but it sounds confusing either way. The difference is whether it can only receive on 2100 or also transmit. Also a bit disappointing, because I'm about to travel to the UK and Europe, and it would be awfully nice to have proper support on all bands. I guess that's another selling point for the Moto X.

wffurr 13y ago

Where do you see that? When I click that link, I see this for frequency band support: US GSM Model: GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz) UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 1700 (AWS), 1900 MHz) Doesn't mention the 2100 band at all, either PCS or AWS. 2100 is only listed for the international model, which lacks the 1700 AWS band. Is there a link to a more detailed spec sheet? The Motorola Razr i I am using now works with PCS on T-Mobile, but also explicitly lists the 2100 band, which I believe is required for T-Mobile HSPA+: http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_razr_i_xt890-4998.php http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_razr_i_xt890-4998.php

maxsilver 13y ago
> Doesn't mention the 2100 band at all, either PCS or AWS. AWS is the proper notation, and that's the phrase your looking for when looking for T-Mobile USA phones. When Motorola claims it supports "AWS", they're explicitly telling you that T-Mobile USA HSPA+ works on both bands. You won't see "1700/2100" often listed on USA phones, specifically because of the problem you just mentioned -- the 2100 band is used unpaired internationally, so it's confusing to see it listed twice, especially when those two uses are completely incompatible.
- wffurr 13y ago
  OK - That's confusing, but it sounds confusing either way. The difference is whether it can only receive on 2100 or also transmit. Also a bit disappointing, because I'm about to travel to the UK and Europe, and it would be awfully nice to have proper support on all bands. I guess that's another selling point for the Moto X.