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Ruby is an actual programming language that runs on most platforms, what's the problem? Do you have a specific flavor of Real Programming that you prefer?

• 7Figures2Commas 13y ago
  Ruby is a programming language. Rails is a framework. I guarantee that you can, in 2013, find "Ruby on Rails programmers" who wouldn't know what to do if you took the Rails away.
  • woah 13y ago
    I'm sure you could also find a lot of C programmers who wouldn't know what to do if you took the compiler away. Talentless amateurs.
    • 7Figures2Commas 13y ago
      Are you seriously comparing a web application framework to a compiler? Wow.
    • ForHackernews 13y ago
      Serious question: What can you usefully do in C without a compiler? Write your own self-hosted compiler somehow? I reject the notion that people who are skilled at using a set of tools are "talentless amateurs" because they don't know how to work without those tools, or create the tools from scratch. How good is a master carpenter if you took away his hammer and saw?