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Also, despite all the naysayers PHP's going through a bit of a revival at the moment. It's certainly not dying. It's recently got Composer as an awesome packag

Also, despite all the naysayers PHP's going through a bit of a revival at the moment. It's certainly not dying. It's recently got Composer as an awesome package manager, the Laravel 4 framework, new features like short array syntax, closures etc and support from more PaaS (e.g. Google App engine). The community is really getting behind all this as well, which will help bring up the reputation. I'd still recommend anyone to learn PHP as their first programming language. It's still the easiest to hack your first idea together, there's more jobs than any other language and the standard of code is improving now the language has the features and infrastructure it needs.

ma2rten 13y ago
If someone wants to learn webdev, I would recommend javascript as a first language. Just use something like parse/firebase and you don't need sever-side at all.
debaserab2 13y ago
PHP isn't going through any sort of "revival" stage or surge in growth. Composer is a cheap clone of NPM with horrible performance (don't believe me? wait until you're in production with 20+ composer dependencies). Closures have been around for over 3 years now. Laravel brings nothing new to the table that wasn't already there before it's existence (and dear god I hope no more of the pretentious Ruby "artisan programmer" attitude continues to bleed over). The reason PHP is not dying is because in SPITE of having a sub-par language syntax, inherently flawed security design, and the newer "me-too" bolted-on features you mention, it still continues to be dead simple to install, learn, and get a working proof of concept up and running. Good ideas become proof of concepts become a sold product quickly with PHP.