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Common sense, unless that term is no longer applicable to modern times. If this were something real, we would be hearing about Rossi's valiant efforts to secure
by lutusp 13y ago
Common sense, unless that term is no longer applicable to modern times. If this were something real, we would be hearing about Rossi's valiant efforts to secure patent protection, not customers.
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- lutusp 13y agoAnd he has obviously failed, and for a very good reason -- he cannot back up his claims. Patents in this realm (not in software) require scientific evidence. Only a perfect fool would try to market a breakthrough device in advance of securing patent protection. So the explanation is obvious -- the device doesn't perform as claimed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Rossi_%28entrepreneur%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Rossi_%28entrepreneur%29 "In January 2011 Andrea Rossi and Professor Sergio Focardi claimed to have successfully demonstrated commercially viable cold fusion in a device called an Energy Catalyzer, although in an interview Rossi claimed that his Energy Catalyzer does not work on the basis of cold fusion, but weak [force] nuclear reactions.[15] The international patent application received an unfavorable international preliminary report on patentability because it seemed to "offend against the generally accepted laws of physics and established theories" and to overcome this problem the application should have contained either experimental evidence or a firm theoretical basis in current scientific theories.[16] Journalists were not allowed to examine the core of the reactor, and there is uncertainty about the viability of the invention.[17]"
- busterarm 13y agoIt's not "common sense" to pull a number out of thin air. The data sheet says 200kW. Also, Rossi has applied for a patent and it was partially rejected. http://phys.org/news/2011-01-italian-scientists-cold-fusion-video.html http://phys.org/news/2011-01-italian-scientists-cold-fusion-... Keep in mind, I still think this is likely B.S., but let's evaluate it based on what we know.
- lutusp 13y ago> It's not "common sense" to pull a number out of thin air. The data sheet says 200kW. Yes, speaking of pulling numbers out of thin air. If this were really a cold fusion device, no continuous input power would be required -- the device could be started once using an impulse of power, then it would become self-sustaining using its own generated energy -- no further input power would be required. Look at the claims: * Input power required: 200KW * Claimed output power: 1 MW Why isn't 200 KW of the 1 MW output power used to sustain the reaction? What's wrong with this picture? Only someone with no understanding of physics would post this "fact sheet".
- sp332 13y agoThe 1 MW output is in heat, not electricity.
- lutusp 13y agoSo is the required input power! The input power is required in order to generate heat to initiate the reaction, and the output power is heat. In any case, it would be child's play to use a thermoelectric converter to efficiently generate electricity from the vast claimed heat output.
- sp332 13y agoI thought that part was just to start the reaction at first? Does it require 200kW all the time?
- lutusp 13y agoThat's the claim, and that's only one of several flaws in the "fact sheet".
- crusso 13y agoI hate to defend the guy when he's set off my fraud detector alarms so much, but thermoelectric converters are what, less than 10% efficient? That wouldn't allow the reaction to sustain itself. He would need some kind of steam-driven turbine to achieve the efficiency needed to provide net power. It doesn't seem unreasonable that his base product doesn't include more than just the basics for now.