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I want to vote for Elon Musk too, but Edward Snowden is too important. Also, why are there no women listed? Sheryl Sandberg and Marissa Mayer made lots of news

I want to vote for Elon Musk too, but Edward Snowden is too important. Also, why are there no women listed? Sheryl Sandberg and Marissa Mayer made lots of news this year.

RyanMcGreal 13y ago
I just added the names that were put forward in the original Ask HN post. I've added Sheryl Sandberg and Marissa Mayer to the poll options.
- crntaylor 13y ago
  I can understand that you were excited to be the one to create the poll, but I think you did a very poor job of it. By the time you added the most recent names to the poll (22 minutes after creating it) at least one name already had 100+ votes. You've also inexplicably put Narendra Modi on there (misspelled) even though he's not in tech.
  - ximeng 13y ago
    It's not inexplicable including Narendra Modi, he just put all the names down that were in the original thread. The original thread didn't specify tech as being important. Adding additional names because somebody else asked for it is hardly a major issue, it's just the nature of HN polls - there's no time to do a nomination phase then voting because if you don't act straight away, you're not going to get on the front page and nobody will vote. (Although this seems to have been flagged off anyway...)
yapcguy 13y ago
Hmm, so Sheryl Sandberg and Marissa Mayer "made lots of news"... is that why they should be included? One is a corporate hack who had a book ghost-written, the other is a corporate hack who once dated Larry Page and landed a nice 5 year gig at Yahoo. They have done nothing for technology. Nothing. They should not be included just because they're in the filter bubble of internet gossip. If you want to vote for someone, on merit, who happens to be female, try Limor Fried of Adafruit.
stackcollision 13y ago
I think putting Snowden on here is cheating, especially among this crowd. Yes, what he did was extremely important. Yes what he did had a tech impact, but the majority of the impact was societal, IMHO. I voted for him on Time, but here I have to vote for Musk.
- ef4 13y ago
  All tech's impact is societal. That's the point of tech. And Snowden's technical ability was instrumental to what he did. So I think he fits quite nicely into the category.
scrrr 13y ago
As a European I don't even know who Sheryl Sandberg is, but googling her it seems she's not really practising what she preaches: http://valleywag.gawker.com/revealed-sheryl-sandbergs-unpaid-intern-shame-1140422267 http://valleywag.gawker.com/revealed-sheryl-sandbergs-unpaid... ;)
- mtrimpe 13y ago
  Sheryl Sandberg wrote a very influential book about (her perspective on) being a woman in today's workplace called Lean In. She's often described as the emotional heart of Facebook and is one of the few truly powerful women in tech and the only one currently directly engaging in the debate on the issues associated with that. You can watch her truly inspiring talk on TED to get an idea of what it's all about: http://www.ted.com/talks/sheryl_sandberg_why_we_have_too_few_women_leaders.html http://www.ted.com/talks/sheryl_sandberg_why_we_have_too_few...
  - knackernews 13y ago
    > She's often described as the emotional heart of Facebook That's an interesting role I've never heard of before. Is there an equivalent at Apple and Google?
    - unfunco 13y ago
      She was the emotional heart of Google until her emotions got the better of her and she defected to Facebook.
kapad 13y ago
Edward Snowden is much less about "tech" and a lot more about privacy revolving mobile phones, internet and a lot more, like banking information, centralised processing of CCTV camera footage, etc, etc.
mhz 13y ago
obviously its because guys don't care about women's issues
phaus 13y ago
I'm sure many of Yahoo's employees and investors appreciate Mayer's efforts, but I don't think she really had a big impact on anyone else. I have to admit that I don't know much about Sandberg, but her Wikipedia page doesn't really show anything worthy of a "person of the year award." Perhaps you can enlighten me? How about Malala Yousafzai? She's amazing. Not really a tech person, but advocating for education is one of the best ways to nurture technological innovation.

I want to vote for Elon Musk too, but Edward Snowden is too important. Also, why are there no women listed? Sheryl Sandberg and Marissa Mayer made lots of news this year.

RyanMcGreal 13y ago

I just added the names that were put forward in the original Ask HN post. I've added Sheryl Sandberg and Marissa Mayer to the poll options.

crntaylor 13y ago
I can understand that you were excited to be the one to create the poll, but I think you did a very poor job of it. By the time you added the most recent names to the poll (22 minutes after creating it) at least one name already had 100+ votes. You've also inexplicably put Narendra Modi on there (misspelled) even though he's not in tech.
- ximeng 13y ago
  It's not inexplicable including Narendra Modi, he just put all the names down that were in the original thread. The original thread didn't specify tech as being important. Adding additional names because somebody else asked for it is hardly a major issue, it's just the nature of HN polls - there's no time to do a nomination phase then voting because if you don't act straight away, you're not going to get on the front page and nobody will vote. (Although this seems to have been flagged off anyway...)

yapcguy 13y ago

Hmm, so Sheryl Sandberg and Marissa Mayer "made lots of news"... is that why they should be included? One is a corporate hack who had a book ghost-written, the other is a corporate hack who once dated Larry Page and landed a nice 5 year gig at Yahoo. They have done nothing for technology. Nothing. They should not be included just because they're in the filter bubble of internet gossip. If you want to vote for someone, on merit, who happens to be female, try Limor Fried of Adafruit.

stackcollision 13y ago

I think putting Snowden on here is cheating, especially among this crowd. Yes, what he did was extremely important. Yes what he did had a tech impact, but the majority of the impact was societal, IMHO. I voted for him on Time, but here I have to vote for Musk.

ef4 13y ago
All tech's impact is societal. That's the point of tech. And Snowden's technical ability was instrumental to what he did. So I think he fits quite nicely into the category.

scrrr 13y ago

As a European I don't even know who Sheryl Sandberg is, but googling her it seems she's not really practising what she preaches: http://valleywag.gawker.com/revealed-sheryl-sandbergs-unpaid-intern-shame-1140422267 http://valleywag.gawker.com/revealed-sheryl-sandbergs-unpaid... ;)

mtrimpe 13y ago
Sheryl Sandberg wrote a very influential book about (her perspective on) being a woman in today's workplace called Lean In. She's often described as the emotional heart of Facebook and is one of the few truly powerful women in tech and the only one currently directly engaging in the debate on the issues associated with that. You can watch her truly inspiring talk on TED to get an idea of what it's all about: http://www.ted.com/talks/sheryl_sandberg_why_we_have_too_few_women_leaders.html http://www.ted.com/talks/sheryl_sandberg_why_we_have_too_few...
- knackernews 13y ago
  > She's often described as the emotional heart of Facebook That's an interesting role I've never heard of before. Is there an equivalent at Apple and Google?
  - unfunco 13y ago
    She was the emotional heart of Google until her emotions got the better of her and she defected to Facebook.

kapad 13y ago

Edward Snowden is much less about "tech" and a lot more about privacy revolving mobile phones, internet and a lot more, like banking information, centralised processing of CCTV camera footage, etc, etc.

mhz 13y ago

obviously its because guys don't care about women's issues

phaus 13y ago

I'm sure many of Yahoo's employees and investors appreciate Mayer's efforts, but I don't think she really had a big impact on anyone else. I have to admit that I don't know much about Sandberg, but her Wikipedia page doesn't really show anything worthy of a "person of the year award." Perhaps you can enlighten me? How about Malala Yousafzai? She's amazing. Not really a tech person, but advocating for education is one of the best ways to nurture technological innovation.