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I can tell you the UK values are screwed up. No one I know earns that kind of money, and it's not just me (see here [1]). Reading HackerNews makes me feel like
by shubb 13y ago
I can tell you the UK values are screwed up. No one I know earns that kind of money, and it's not just me (see here [1]).
Reading HackerNews makes me feel like there is a subset of very well paid developers. I am curious what makes them different from normal ones.
In London, the differentiator may be working in finance. I recall applying for a job at an investment bank a while ago (which I didn't get because I had 'good technical skills, but no experience of finance' apparently. Rarrr), which told me it would pay about double my current level. Conversely, I interviewed at Sony, building the web application behind the PS4, and was offered at a similar level to my current pay (now in the mid 20ks, started rather lower). This was for midlevel.
If you are reading this, and are in the 'lucky' group, how did you make that luck?
I write this because I think there is some network effect here - I am sure there are high and low paid lawyers, but I have no idea what differentiates them. Similarly, whithin my subset of software, I know people skills, landing clients, and raw programming ability are differentiators, but I wouldn't know what differentiator explains this wage cliff.
http://imgiseverything.co.uk/articles/junior-web-developer-salary/ http://imgiseverything.co.uk/articles/junior-web-developer-s...
- adav 13y agoI learnt about finance...
- shubb 13y agoThank's Ada. I guess I've been sort of avoiding Finance, so I certainly didn't study up enough pre-interview. I'm hoping someone will post saying there is another way - I like working on things that I really care about...
- adav 13y agoI've had that discussion with myself many times. But should you, or anyone else for that matter, wish to gain that financial insight, I found the book 'All You Need To Know About The City' by Christopher Stokes to be very useful.
- peteretep 13y agoTheir numbers, converted in to yearly salary, GBP, and with tax taken in to account: Senior: $5,500 - £58,000 Mid: $4,300 - £43,000 Junior: $3,300 - £32,000 These don't sound unreasonable to me. Did you convert wrong, did I convert wrong, or do you think those numbers are too high, even when converted?
- shubb 13y agoI did not convert, sorry. Those actually sound about right.
- Kurtz79 13y agoIn my experience the values for UK are sound. When I was working there I was on the lower 20Ks GBP (which living in London just sucks), but it was my first real job. I still receive various e-mails from recruiters (the kind they spam to every contact they ever had) for mid-level roles and most are between 30-45K, with the finance ones being much more, as you say. It's kind of depressing thinking that after 7+ years of career the highest salary I ever had was for an internship in the US, before even staring out...