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Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden
- trekky1700 13y agoI'd nominate Bill Gates, he's done more in the past year to support and make actual change and improve the world than anyone on the list. Then again, not exactly newsworthy.
- benmarks 13y ago"Authorize Poptip to use your account? "This application will be able to: * Read Tweets from your timeline. * See who you follow, and follow new people. * Update your profile. * Post Tweets for you." The hell.
- drcube 13y agoI stopped trying to vote after enabling the 20th third-party script on that page and the poll still didn't work.
- imaginator 13y agoPoll results: http://poy.time.com/2013/11/25/vote-now-who-should-be-times-person-of-the-year/slide/poll-results/ http://poy.time.com/2013/11/25/vote-now-who-should-be-times-...
- electic 13y agoNice, was looking for that...
- repsilat 13y agoStrange looking list. On my browser Rand Paul's name is truncated to "RAND PAU.." (ironically all such truncated names are cut off at the last letter, making them all longer). Many longer names are not truncated, though: "RECEP TAYYIP ERDOĞAN", "DZHOKHAR AND TAMERLAN TSARNAEV". Several names end with full-stops, too: "MALALA YOUSAFZA." is one. I wonder if it is a secret message.
- Yetanfou 13y agoWell, I tried to have a look at the list. I also happen to use a request-origin whitelist (Requestpolicy) and script whitelist (noscript). Those two present me with a list of around 20 locations from where the page tries to pull in content and code, many of which will pull in more content and code. Sorry, time.com, but I already had spaghetti last night so I'll pass, I guess the list wasn't that interesting to begin with.
- brokenparser 13y agoPoll requires Facebook 0/10 would not vote again
- vertis 13y agoOr twitter. Honestly, It's easier than making people sign up for an account (safer too, since they don't leave an unhashed password in their database)
- ggambetta 13y agoOr twitter: ---------- This application will be able to: Read Tweets from your timeline. See who you follow, and follow new people. Update your profile. Post Tweets for you. ---------- SRSLY?
- milesokeefe 13y agoEh, vote then revoke access to the app.
- mverwijs 13y agoMaking it very complicated to cast a simple vote.
- Sprint 13y agoHow do you know it does not immediately utilise those rights?
- brokenparser 13y agoPlease just say use
- Sprint 13y agoTo me "utilise" has a slightly different meaning that "use". I am not a native speaker though. Is it just a fancy way of saying "use"? I thought it implied "using" an option/feature/opportunity to do something. So one "utilises" that to do something.
- PixelPusher 13y agoNo way, I don't vote for traitors. All his US supporters are a bunch of Benedict Arnolds. BTW, just voted for Miley. She definitely made my year.
- Numberwang 13y agoI can completely understand your position if you are an American. And I'm sure you can understand us foreigners trying to show our appreciation for a man who uncovered this extensive evil intrusion into our lives.
- PixelPusher 13y agoBottom line, he's a traitor. Beyond that, most of the laws that helped start this were set into effect years ago. Where were the people crying then? Most people complain about having their privacy taken away when using free online services. All I see are a bunch of ignorant loud mouths who got angry too late.
- orik 13y agoYeah because how dare any citizen question it's government, right? /s
- PixelPusher 13y agoAre you serious? You can question everything you want as an ordinary citizen. The moment you sign a contract, specially for the military, you agree to keep your word. So, right, how dare the government hold someone to their word? You're basically advocating lying and not honoring your promises. BTW - I basically make a living honoring promises and contracts, otherwise we wouldn't have customers ;)
- samastur 13y agoSays a guy who sells ads for a living ;)
- beaker52 13y agoGovernment: Snowden is a terrorist. People: Snowden is a hero. What a great way to bring this difference of opinion to the fore.
- pgsandstrom 13y agoPutin and Miley Cyrus is currently close to the top. Together with Snowden, they create a holy trinity of heroes.
- sigzero 13y agoOr the "axis of evil" depending on your point of view.
- dagw 13y agoPerson of the year is the person considered to have had the most significant influence on the world, but not necessarily for the better. It's an acknowledgment of their significance, not an endorsement of their actions. Previous winners include Hitler, Stalin and Ayatullah Khomeini. No matter where someone falls on the Snoweden-is-a-terrorist/Snowden-is-a-hero scale, they can all agree that his actions greatly influenced the current poltical narrative, and stands a good chance of changing the world (for better or worse depending on which side of the debate you stand on) as we move forward.
- lmm 13y ago> Person of the year is the person considered to have had the most significant influence on the world, but not necessarily for the better. It's an acknowledgment of their significance, not an endorsement of their actions. Previous winners include Hitler, Stalin and Ayatullah Khomeini. IIRC those were all Man of the Year. TIME's choices in more recent years have been far more wimpy (e.g. Osama Bin Laden was snubbed in 2001); while their stated aim is to pick the most significant (for good or ill) person, I no longer have any faith that they will do so.
- josefresco 13y agoGovernment: Snowden is a terrorist. People: Snowden is a hero. Other People: Snowden is neither.
- Kiro 13y agoI voted Lebron James.
- thesadman 13y agoUgh, do people still waste their time with TIME magazine and their "storied" polls? Sorry, but it is the equivalent of a tabloid because for the last 10 years the quality of articles have been continuously dropping. To see it linked here on HN is unfortunate. Lets spend our time on more interesting topics.
- aaron695 13y agoThe masses read the tabloids, if they are not on your side then you're the minority. Which leaves you with the only other options put up with the status quo or leave. Until we get our seasteading going the tabloids are very important.
- ethana 13y agoCorrection: The mass of baby boomers who still have subscription ;) Although in TIME's defense, their POY is still better than the Nobel Peace Prize.
- user24 13y agoAre these polls typically good indicators of TIME's official choice? Or is this going to be a way of making Snowden "the people's POY" without TIME officially making it so?
- lignuist 13y agoPoll 2010: http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2028734_2029036_2029037,00.html http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,288... And then it became: http://content.time.com/time/person-of-the-year/2010/ http://content.time.com/time/person-of-the-year/2010/ So probably this year it will be Miley Cyrus...
- MattBearman 13y agoCurrently (and thankfully) Edward Snowden has 10x more votes than Miley Cyrus
- tlrobinson 13y agoAnd Julian Assange had 21x more votes than Mark Zuckerberg...
- salient 13y agoThat was one of the most disappointing winnings of Time's POY awards. It should've been Assange, not Zuckerbeg.
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- user-id 13y agoUpdate, Cyrus is now ahead of Snowden with a comfortable lead.
- cx42net 13y agoI'm so disapointed, da fuk she's even on the list ?!
- beaker52 13y agoTurkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan got a lot of positive votes. I imagine he doesn't have same support after Gezi.
- cubsink 13y agoThis should not be a vote. End of story.
- mkohlmyr 13y agohttp://i.imgur.com/jv9t4X0.png http://i.imgur.com/jv9t4X0.png I'd say those numbers sound about right...
- baby 13y agoI'm wondering why some people are on the list, like Miley Cyrus or the guy behind Netflix. If those are, why not others? I'd personally vote for the head of Naughty Dog and The Last of Us over Netflix. PS: thinking about it, I'd vote for Satoshi. We should do a HN POY. PS2 : done! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6800515 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6800515
- martincmartin 13y ago"Person of the Year" is really "Newsmaker of the Year." It's not an endorsement, just a recognition that they made the most news. Hitler was TIME's "Man of the Year" in 1938.
- user24 13y ago> Hitler was TIME's "Man of the Year" in 1938. - after the Munich Agreement wherein Hitler agreed peace with Chamberlain. Ok he reneged, but that's not the point.
- martincmartin 13y ago> Ok he reneged, but that's not the point. The article isn't celebrating peace, it's very negative about Hitler. The cover for that issue shows people being tortured. Edit: you can read it here. http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,760539,00.html http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,760539,...
- cheald 13y ago
- rdl 13y agoI don't see how this is even a question capable of admitting debate (although maybe Poitras and Greenwald could get in.)
- ck2 13y agoAs much as I appreciate Edward Snowden and what he did, Malala Yousafzai deserves even more attention for her deeds.
- oddx 13y agoIt is not about deserves or don't, it's about influence. Yousafzai influence to the World is negligible in comparison to Snowden.
- esamek 13y agoChrome won't let me vote..throwing shitloads of errors in the console. GPT LOADED EVENT LISTENER EXECUTED load listener, textContent GPT LOADED Blocked a frame with origin "http://poy.time.com" http://poy.time.com" from accessing a frame with origin "http://tags.bluekai.com" http://tags.bluekai.com". Protocols, domains, and ports must match. GPT LOADED EVENT LISTENER EXECUTED load listener, textContent Blocked a frame with origin "http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net" http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net" from accessing a frame with origin "http://poy.time.com" http://poy.time.com". Protocols, domains, and ports must match. EVENT LISTENER EXECUTED old height: old width: scroll height: 55 scroll width: 275 new height: new width: Blocked a frame with origin "http://poy.time.com" http://poy.time.com" from accessing a frame with origin "http://tags.bluekai.com" http://tags.bluekai.com". Protocols, domains, and ports must match. Uncaught SecurityError: An attempt was made to break through the security policy of the user agent. 93c0d7430d30e77dc6a5f0275dfcb679.js:48 Uncaught TypeError: Object #<Page> has no method 'init' 528c2242c903451bee0013d3:81 2 Blocked a frame with origin "http://poy.time.com" http://poy.time.com" from accessing a frame with origin "http://tags.bluekai.com" http://tags.bluekai.com". Protocols, domains, and ports must match. Invalid App Id: Must be a number or numeric string representing the application id. all.js:56 The "fb-root" div has not been created, auto-creating all.js:56 FB.getLoginStatus() called before calling FB.init(). all.js:56 2 Blocked a frame with origin "http://poy.time.com" http://poy.time.com" from accessing a frame with origin "http://tags.bluekai.com" http://tags.bluekai.com". Protocols, domains, and ports must match. Posted 2 errors to errorception.com 50eb3228903069e001000036.js:1 2 Blocked a frame with origin "http://poy.time.com" http://poy.time.com" from accessing a frame with origin "http://tags.bluekai.com" http://tags.bluekai.com". Protocols, domains, and ports must match.
- a3n 13y agoYou have access to another browser. I don't have a facebook account.
- chollida1 13y agoCan't vote as I have to login with Twitter or Facebook to vote. Why?
- luckyno13 13y agoMy thoughts exactly. I went to vote in their poll, it told me I had to have one of those, so screw it, they dont want my vote.
- Jgrubb 13y agoIt throws that up after you vote, presumably to make you broadcast this very important poll to the universe of rapt followers we all have. I didn't get the impression you actually have to do that to vote, though, since it pops up afterward. It at least gave me the impression that I voted even though I dismissed it.
- Thrymr 13y agoThe popup says "Please log in to ensure your vote is counted." The Twitter auth also includes the ability to post tweets for you, although the popup says "We won’t post anything without your permission." Didn't I just give them permission if I authorize them to use my account? No thanks.
- thrillgore 13y agoMarblecake also the game
- beaker52 13y ago2012: Anonymous got peoples vote, but Obama was chosen.
- avisk 13y agoThe irony is to vote for Snowden,I need to login using Facebook or twitter :), so that time.com can track me.
- ChrisArchitect 13y agoPutin is a good one but I feel like he wasn't a top newsmaker this year, and further that he will most likely be a newsmaker next year (look at current happenings in Ukraine, continued things like that, and then the mother of all craziness that's going to be Sochi Olympics) Snowden seems like the best bet for sheer impact/newsmaker. Tho I'm not sure how 'international' TIME is these days, and perhaps Snowden is only really know in the West.
- Nilmay 13y agoThe future PM CANDIDATE OF INDIA SHREE NARENDRA MODI JI!deserved to the time person of the year! Cos he thoroughly deserves it!
- thesadman 13y agoI think Modi seems like a no-nonsense forward thinking anti-corruption development oriented person. Completely unlike any of the rest of India's nepotistic political caste. I hope for India's sake that this guy gets a shot at trying to solve some of those problems.
- kolbe 13y agoThis is one of the more disheartening polls I've seen. It speaks to a new, disturbing dynamic in our social order where people do not defend their beliefs with any sort of force or passion. I had no clue so many people shared in my belief that Snowden has done something great. I figured the media had corrupted most of the people into thinking he'd done something deplorable, because no one has been taking to the streets or to the polls or to the anything to demand changes based on his revelations. Past generations would have, but that's not the case today. We think he's great. We just don't care to actually support him. Historically, I feel like there was a notion that someone was "too popular to execute." But, even though the vast majority appear to support Snowden so much that they declare him POY, I don't think we'd do a thing if the US raided his home in Russia and put a bullet in him. We'd be mad, and we'd write blog posts about it, and maybe some people would DDoS attack a website or send a bunch of pizzas to John Kerry, but there would be no political turnover. There would be no justice on Snowden's behalf. At best, it would be like Guantanamo, where some new POTUS candidate promises change so we elect him, then does absolutely nothing. And we'd happily just not care.
- pmorici 13y agoIf you rely on Internet polls to deduce what the sentiment of the country is then Snowden is an American hero, Ron Paul should be president, and there would be no more software patents. That is to say that Internet polls grossly over represent certain minority beliefs.
- TillE 13y agoActual polls show a slight majority in favor of Snowden, despite the barrage of whining and accusations from politicians and cable news.
- njharman 13y ago> I don't think we'd do a thing if the US raided his home in Russia and put a bullet in him. Oh come now, of course we would. We'd up vote the HN article announcing this news. And the more radical among us would surely post a comment.
- knodi 13y agoI don't think Edward Snowden should be person of the year. Not because I don't think he did something important because he did. I truly think what he did was the right thing. But he needs to stand trial in the US so the we the people can see how extreme our government has become. He needs to be like batman, sacrifice his mind, body and freedom for a cause that people will remember him for. But he's in Russia and he's never coming back to the US so this will be a on going thing for years even decades where no one but few people will remember him and our blight.
- 3JPLW 13y agoWhy do you think that excludes him from being the person of the year? I don't think those two things are mutually exclusive.
- beshrkayali 13y agoI may not be correct, but Edward said specifically at the beginning of all of this: Please don't make this about me! Correct?
- brdrak 13y agoDidn't he also say somewhere that we'll be reading about him in history books?
- Hovertruck 13y agoThanks for the helpful error message, Time. Error (api.go:209) forerunner/api.getPollById: exception: can't connect to new replica set master [ec2-54-225-59-0.compute-1.amazonaws.com:27017], err: couldn't connect to server ec2-54-225-59-0.compute-1.amazonaws.com:27017
- wehadfun 13y agoWonder how Zimmerman and Travon Martin did not get on this list.
- Glyptodon 13y agoTheir voting system provider keeps failing.
- jotm 13y agoVoted (with my "fake" FB account cause I don't have a real one).
- bcRIPster 13y ago...and provide Time marketing info by giving them access to your Facebook data. Not happening, thank-you very much.
- V22726549 13y agoNARENDRA MODI
- nitesh887 13y agoNarendra Modi.
- mydpy 13y agoMiley Cyrus has more votes than Edward Snowden. How can that be?
- cdmoyer 13y agoI just asked three people near me if they knew who Snowden and Cyrus were. Guess who was recognized by all three and who was vaguely acknowledged by 1. Not a scientific study, but I'd put money on it being repeatable outside the workplaces of hacker news readers.
- DanBC 13y agoIs that an honest question? You realise that almost no-one gives a fuck about Snowden, right? Most people really just don't care. The Guardian newspaper has (if we're generous) a circulation of 250,000 people. The (untrustworthy) numbers of the MileyCyrusVEVO "Wrecking Ball" video are 352,117,848 views.
- JackpotDen 13y ago> 352,117,848 views. Now I'm depressed.
- Tosh108 13y agoThe numbers are completely different from this afternoon, seems like some people are hacking the votes for fun: http://www.dailydot.com/news/time-person-of-the-year-miley-cyrus-rigged/ http://www.dailydot.com/news/time-person-of-the-year-miley-c...
- deadly 13y agoNarendramodi
- patwalmanoj 13y agoNa Mo..Narendra Modi..from Child labor to Candidate for PM of biggest democracy, Decisive, honest...leader of modern India
- patwalmanoj 13y agoNa Mo..Narendra Modi..from Child labor to Candidate for PM of biggest democracy, Decisive, honest...leader of modern India
- pankaj12145 13y agoNarendra modi should be person of the year. Modi is a real hero in india. He can change india ,he can make india developed county.
- dearmodi 13y agoOnly Narendra Modi deserve it....
- Angana_Mandal 13y agoMr Narendra Modi
- peeyushsethia 13y agoNARENDRA MODI