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I recently noticed that the Macbooks' Japanese Keyboard Layout is surprisingly similar to these Terminal keyboard layouts. I wonder why this is? https://discus

I recently noticed that the Macbooks' Japanese Keyboard Layout is surprisingly similar to these Terminal keyboard layouts. I wonder why this is? https://discussions.apple.com/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-23508185-316223/kybard.jpg https://discussions.apple.com/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/...

JumpCrisscross 13y ago
$ is on 4 and ¥ way off to the right on the Japanese keyboard?
- hkmurakami 13y ago
  ~, Ctrl, @, etc.
  - kps 13y ago
    The keyboards — the Japanese layout and the ADM-3A — are bit-paired, meaning that the characters on an unshifted and shifted key differ in exactly one bit in the ASCII encoding. SP ! " # $ % & ' ( ) * + , - . / 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 : ; < = > ? @ A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z [ \ ] ^ _ ` a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z { | } ~ DEL Shift toggles bit 4 of the numeric and low punctuation keys (codes < 0x40), and bit 5 of the alphabetic and high punctuation keys. This made terminals easier and cheaper to build, in the days before cheap microprocessors, when encoding was done in discrete logic or, like the Teletype 33, mechanically.
- chattoraj 13y ago
  Speaking of the ¥, notice how it's right under the |? Early Japanese codepages put ¥ where ASCII has the backslash. Even today, on most (if not all) OSes render the \ as ¥ when using the Japanese locale. Further reading: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/michkap/archive/2005/09/17/469941.aspx http://blogs.msdn.com/b/michkap/archive/2005/09/17/469941.as...
  - cheapsteak 13y ago
    Interesting, I think the South Koreans did the same thing. Installing South Korean games (this was middle school), I've always wondered why the paths were showing up as : C:₩Program Files₩GRAVITY₩RO And trying to type \ in the installation path input box results in ₩

JumpCrisscross 13y ago

$ is on 4 and ¥ way off to the right on the Japanese keyboard?

hkmurakami 13y ago
~, Ctrl, @, etc.
- kps 13y ago
  The keyboards — the Japanese layout and the ADM-3A — are bit-paired, meaning that the characters on an unshifted and shifted key differ in exactly one bit in the ASCII encoding. SP ! " # $ % & ' ( ) * + , - . / 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 : ; < = > ? @ A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z [ \ ] ^ _ ` a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z { | } ~ DEL Shift toggles bit 4 of the numeric and low punctuation keys (codes < 0x40), and bit 5 of the alphabetic and high punctuation keys. This made terminals easier and cheaper to build, in the days before cheap microprocessors, when encoding was done in discrete logic or, like the Teletype 33, mechanically.
chattoraj 13y ago
Speaking of the ¥, notice how it's right under the |? Early Japanese codepages put ¥ where ASCII has the backslash. Even today, on most (if not all) OSes render the \ as ¥ when using the Japanese locale. Further reading: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/michkap/archive/2005/09/17/469941.aspx http://blogs.msdn.com/b/michkap/archive/2005/09/17/469941.as...
- cheapsteak 13y ago
  Interesting, I think the South Koreans did the same thing. Installing South Korean games (this was middle school), I've always wondered why the paths were showing up as : C:₩Program Files₩GRAVITY₩RO And trying to type \ in the installation path input box results in ₩