4 ms·
It seems ridiculous to me that the existence of a naked photo (with no context) would be grounds for firing a teacher. It might not be real and, even if, all it
by michaelochurch 13y ago
It seems ridiculous to me that the existence of a naked photo (with no context) would be grounds for firing a teacher. It might not be real and, even if, all it proves is that she has a human body, which is not exactly news.
I know I'm preaching to the choir, but I agree; this country needs to grow the fuck up.
- enraged_camel 13y agoIt doesn't have anything to do with growing up. You have to go for the root cause, which is religious conservatism. Think about it: why can European TV channels show nudity (and sometimes even porn) during daytime? Is it because Europeans are more "grown up" or is it because they have more sane, liberal values and worldviews?
- michaelochurch 13y agoImmaturity (in the aggregate) is an outgrowth and cause of cultural degradation, which is more of a problem in the US than in European countries in which, yes, people tend (on average) to be more socially balanced and adult. Religious conservatism is one expression of an immature mindset (an imaginary friend who rains buttfire on your ideological enemies by the millions). Hunter Moore does not appear religious, but shows a different expression of the pervasive immaturity. After the 1980s, the anti-intellectual undercurrent (that exists in all societies) metastasized through the resurgent conservative movement (Reagan Revolution). Combine this with economic forces that are (through no fault of their own, for many people) delaying adolescence into what used to be full adulthood and you get a stupid, immature, brain-dead culture.
- Iku-Nuku-117G 13y agoThis would be the same Europe where millions of people were murdered by their own governments within living memory, that had a functioning Fascist state (a real one) until 1975 and Communist slave states up until 1989, and that has has active "ethnic cleansing" going on right now? That Europe? Just checking.
- enraged_camel 13y agoCan you please explain what any of those has anything to do with showing nudity and sex on daytime TV?
- Iku-Nuku-117G 13y agoCan you please explain why not showing boobies on TV is a sign of "cultural degradation" and all the other insults that michaelochurch was flinging around but (e.g.) murdering 80 or so million people is not?
- dinkumthinkum 13y agoI think the problem is just that your view does not pander to the naïveté about Europe and the, mostly, ironic low esteem America is in around here.
- Iku-Nuku-117G 13y agoSure. Note the down mod for something that doesn't adhere to the received wisdom (but happens to be true nonetheless).
- deleted 13y ago[deleted]
- yarou 13y agoClearly this is a troll account since it was created one hour ago. But I'll take the bait and respond anyway. Yes, the same Europe where millions of people were murdered by their own governments. What about the ethnic cleansing that the US did in Latin America during the 80s? Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
- Iku-Nuku-117G 13y agoReally? 80 million people were killed in ethnic cleansing by the US in Latin America in the 80s? Link to that?
- tesseractive 13y agoThe ironic thing is that most societies in history at most points in time would look at the presence of porn on TV itself as cultural degradation, and the opposition to it as a sign of maintaining proper cultural standards. Which is not to say that view is right, but it illustrates that throwing around a term like "cultural degradation" at all can be quite problematic.
- biafra 13y agoThere is no porn in European TV during daytime. Not by our definition of porn. Not every sexual act is considered porn.