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Sex over distance using affordable consumer teledildonic robots
- frixionme 13y agoWe are looking for partners and new connections on AngelList: http://www.angel.co/frixion http://www.angel.co/frixion , we are happy to answer any questions
- moocowduckquack 13y agoI hope this doesn't gum up the inter-tubes.
- venomsnake 13y agoThere was april fool's joke 12 years ago about a device called FuFme that did exactly that. The world changes.
- rok3 13y agoStill around... haha http://www.easylife.org/fufme/ http://www.easylife.org/fufme/
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- hobs 13y agoObviously not your bag, and not really mine either, but why call it sick?
- mattstreet 13y agoOh please.
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- crusso 13y agoThis device plus an Oculus Rift could be a winner.
- 001sky 13y agoTeledildonic ^^This is a Word?
- loceng 13y agoIf we keep saying teledildonic is will be!
- aviraldg 13y agoYes, and coined by none other than Ted Nelson.
- basyt 13y agoHey, Oxford Dictionary here is your word for 2014. I feel sad for people who think mechanized dildos bots are a good enough substitute for sex. I hope I never get that jaded - or desperate :)
- waterlesscloud 13y agoYes, and probably older than a lot of people reading this comment. Howard Rheingold column using the term in a 1990 issue of Mondo 2000. http://janefader.com/teledildonics-by-howard-rheingold-mondo-2000-1990/ http://janefader.com/teledildonics-by-howard-rheingold-mondo...
- amirmc 13y agoIt even has a Wikipedia page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teledildonics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teledildonics
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- Nursie 13y agoNow you can have sex without even touching another human being! Yeah, this is one activity I think I've going to stick to the old meatspace/wetware paradigm for, sorry guys. OTOH I'm sure it's a fun device to work on :)
- XorNot 13y agoSex by touching other human beings is a pretty risky enterprise when you get right down to it.
- frixionme 13y agoWhat we've invented here is a new channel for intimacy that falls somewhere between a webcam chat and being in the same room -- it's a big deal!
- Nursie 13y agoThe idea's been around for decades. I am impressed if you're actually going to bring it to market though, that will be novel. I think most exploration of this space has either been entirely hypothetical or just prototyped and then abandoned. --edit-- wondering why the downvote? This is factual. If you want to downvote my negative opinions then go ahead, but this stuff has been showcased multiple times over the last 20/30 years and never delivered.
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- kleiba 13y agoWhat's up with the cartoon horse in the video?
- frixionme 13y agoThey are RIDING the horse! http://i.imgur.com/dsDg8.gif http://i.imgur.com/dsDg8.gif (i suppose it's easier to see in the video if you go full screen)
- amirmc 13y agoSome items from the video that were not mentioned in the article: One to many interactions, Record and replay experiences, Pre-recorded games/videos. Of course, none of the above should really be a surprise but they still caught me off-guard.
- frixionme 13y agoPossibilities really open up with the telemetry translation api -- realizing that the telemetry is digital, and only has to be encoded once to be read for any purpose for any supported device is huge. We expect to be very busy for a long time fleshing out all the applications we have in mind. One that we're working on is using a users webcam to monitor heart rate (similar to the xbox one + kinect) and use that information to create a soft vibration that pulses in their partners device in time, so when one gets "excited" the other can feel the haptic feedback and vice versa simultaneously.. This is some real scifi stuff we're doing and it's very exciting
- durty 13y agoUpvote for "fleshing out". Very interesting ideas. I can only imagine how far this concept can be taken.
- milin 13y agoThis is the future. I hope this would be a platform where developers could use the API and create more sci fi stuffs. Also, where can i hack on this api?
- telecuda 13y agoHave you talked through what the company will do once developers start creating FriXion experiences with virtual children? Are you taking a hands-off approach (no pun intended) to what people do with the technology, or do you plan on vetting each application? If presented with an abuse scenario, would you cooperate with law enforcement to find who is "connecting" with (or creating) these children? I'm not knocking the tech or your intention to make a fun product - just throwing out some important questions.
- surrealize 13y agoTHX1138, from 1971, depicting a dystopian future: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njfm7HKNSmM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njfm7HKNSmM Note the machine! You can't see exactly what it's doing, but you can see the way it's moving :)
- frixionme 13y agoIt's been so confusing that nobody has stepped up to make it happen. In reality, this area of haptics is a patent and licensing mine field and these tightly controlled properties have stifled innovation until now. In choosing this problem to "solve" much of the effort has been put into overcoming these bureaucratic obstacles to be able to bring a useful platform to market that isn't just gimmicky vibrators. We're super proud of our accomplishments not just with the robots, but to be able to make this a marketable and useful platform that can democratize remote intimacy to the advantage of everyone. The distopian conversation is an interesting one, and it's been a constant banter here -- but for now what we're doing is trying to bring people closer, not isolate them. This is a tool, a supplement -- not a replacement for real sex. Also, I love that we have to say REAL SEX now to differentiate.
- arianvanp 13y agoSex over wire. this is brilliant. There are gonna be a lot of no-nodders, but trust me, this is going to be a thing in the future.
- ghostdiver 13y agoI'm sure that the technology behind this can be used for something more useful.
- anoncow 13y agoI am sure we will be doing that too.
- frixionme 13y agoThe technology we're using is taken from remote presence machines used for things like remote surgeries. The machines are really just tracking a point in 3d space on both sides and matching it. For medical use, you can imagine the robot arm tracking the edge of a doctors scapel to the micron accuracy -- what we have here is a consumer grade robot for <200$ that tracks to milimeters. It's a 3D force feedback mouse essentially, you can use it for manipulating and creating 3D models and feel their texture, edges, material, weight, etc.
- ksherlock 13y agoToo bad the NSA will be collecting all the metadata.
- puller 13y agoPeople already volunteer who they're having sex with on Facebook
- recuter 13y agoThis reminds me too much of one: http://archer.wikia.com/wiki/Doctor_Krieger http://archer.wikia.com/wiki/Doctor_Krieger John Carmack will really need to outdo himself to make the technology for this sort of thing actually viable and not just easy "what will those pervy nerds think of next" news fodder. We are many multiple decades out. I'm speaking strictly as a person who actually had sex mind you.
- frixionme 13y agoNothing but respect for fellow robot sex pioneers ;)
- charlieflowers 13y agoAre you saying, "I, for one, welcome our new sexual robotic overlords"?
- eaurouge 13y agoTelemetry translation API? Seriously? You're recording 3D motion inputs, transmitting over UDP and playing back on a Novint Falcon. State of the art is much more advanced than that.
- frixionme 13y agoOur work with the Falcon is just one device (and we're very proud of that, it's a big deal!) The ttapi is a universal language for haptics to connect any device to any other where functionality overlaps. This way new devices can be developed by third parties that can innovate independently and still see an immediate market and userbase. The ttapi is used for games, video, and other software to interact with the user through these devices as well. It's a critical aspect of the potential of the frixion platform.
- eaurouge 13y agoAre you doing force reflection with the Falcon? Doesn't seem like it from your videos. It sounds like I'm being dismissive but I think you're overhyping your tech, just a bit. What I see in your video is not cutting edge (yet), this is from my experience of reading papers and attending conferences on telemanipulation and haptics, and doing research in this area.
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- h4pless 13y agoI wonder if the use of this technology by a paid webcam model on a client would constitute prostitution. Or what the social ramifications would be of having an omegle/chat-roulette style chat system where people could have sex with anonymous strangers over the internet at a moment's notice without any fear of pregnancy or sexually transmitted disease.
- frixionme 13y agoLegally it's not prostitution, the laws would have to change to cover what we have here. However, there are some places (such as in the south pacific/se asia) that consider any pornography or webcam sex criminal regardless of robotic augmentation. A virtual glory hole is a day one feature actually! To randomly connect two users with complimentary devices and the option to reveal themselves if they both choose to do so. You can imagine sex between game avatars as well, never knowing who's actually on the other side because all you can see is the in-game world but the robot telemetry is real from another person. Your notes about pregnancy and std's are important, no threat of violence or stalking either. It's a very safe form of sex -- and we may be able to debate what actually constitutes "sex" but this is for sure not masturbation anymore.
- philwelch 13y agoWell, "sex". This is probably nowhere near the real thing.
- Fargren 13y agoBut supposing it was, the ramifications would be interesting to explore. This is the stuff good sci-fi is made of.
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- notahacker 13y agoLet's get this party started... http://whois.net/whois/teledildonicroulette.com http://whois.net/whois/teledildonicroulette.com
- tzs 13y ago> from a sex tech company called FriXion Nice name. It has an obvious connection to the product, and if you want to give out pens with the name on them you don't have to pay for custom printing [1]! [1] http://www.pilotpen.us/Brands/FriXion.aspx http://www.pilotpen.us/Brands/FriXion.aspx
- ISL 13y agoHa! Interesting to see if Pilot would choose to pursue a trademark-infringement case. "Yes, your honor, we think our writing implements can be reasonably confused with a sex robot."
- jrockway 13y ago"People will think our pen is a penis." Sorry, I had to.
- cpeterso 13y agohttp://www.PenIsland.net http://www.PenIsland.net
- yaddayadda 13y agoApplicable quote from the website, "We Specialize In Wood".
- neurotech1 13y agoIf Pilot Pens starting making a auto-signing machine pen, I could see someone getting a tad confused.
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- anonymfus 13y agoYet another pop culture reference — French-Belgian movie "Thomas est amoureux": http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0262826/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0262826/ http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_est_amoureux http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_est_amoureux (no English version of this article exist, only French, Russian and very short Italian)
- fauigerzigerk 13y agoI just hope the product is better than the video and the music.
- yetanotherphd 13y agoHow safe is this? It seems difficult to deliver enough force to be realistic without the potential to damage sensitive organs.
- frixionme 13y agoIt's quite safe, the robots you see in the video have a maximum output that is quite gentle, enough to push small and medium sized toys through a well lubricated passage-way but otherwise harmless. We have stronger devices that will also be supported day 1 on the beta, and these devices have their power and stroke length defined in the driver software. These more powerful devices aren't so much robots though, just single axis articulation and no bidirectional feedback -- good enough for accelerometer control though where there's no channel for feedback anyway. ALSO, remember in encounters with humans communication is key! make sure they know what you want and how, just as if they were really there.
- Dewie 13y agohttp://www.gizmag.com/nsfw-review-realtouch-sex-toy-for-men/26804/ http://www.gizmag.com/nsfw-review-realtouch-sex-toy-for-men/...
- frixionme 13y agoWe like the realtouch and intend to support it on the frixion platform eventually -- it has an open source sdk available and having broad support for diverse haptic experiences is the point of the plugin system -- however the realtouch is different in some important ways compared to what we've accomplished here using robotics. The realtouch is an "input only" device that sits motionless on a mans lap while the conveyor belts do their job either from an encoded video, or from a live model using a touch sensitive dildo called a joystick. This is flow of telemetry in a single direction -- to the realtouch. Our devices create a tethered sense of physical intimacy and connection. One partner feels whats happening with the other side, and vice versa, simultaneously. Also, our design has all the moving parts on the outside, which we feel is more appealing than sticking your penis into an opaque grinding box. (Our devices are very quiet btw, will be adding new videos next week to demonstrate) You can imagine when we add support for the realtouch that other devices on the platfrom such as the robot itself and accelerometer products will be able to send telemetry to the device to control its functions, and vice versa, the joystick would be able to send telemetry to the robots to manipulate a fleshlight/tenga/sleeve. It's really a robust api that enables all devices to interact where their functionalities overlap. However, we should all be supportive of realtouch right now -- it appears they're having licensing issues with a certain patent holder that is turning the screws on them and without intervention they wont be able to continue selling devices next year. Dealing with this minefield of patents and licensing has been an important predicate for our development at frixion, and we are eager to create a "safe haven" for other developers to deploy their devices under the agreements we hold in the future.
- gfodor 13y agoit looks like my investment in sex slash Oculus related porn domains is well on it's way.
- snomad 13y agoThe referring URL should NOT use 'kid' for the id. http://www.frixion.me?kid=99999 http://www.frixion.me?kid=99999
- flycaliguy 13y agoLet's face it, being a senior citizen in 25+ years is going to be amazing. I can't wait to retire and just have Viagra fuelled cyber VR sex all day. Take a drag of my e-cig after and sent some bitcoins to my grand kids.
- ChrisNorstrom 13y agoThat's fine for you but... I'm horrified at what your grand kids will have access to.
- raintrees 13y agoAt some point along this future, the question might be "What grandkids?"
- frixionme 13y agoLets be honest kids are a hassle anyway
- bitops 13y agoThat future is already here. Reading the book "Pornland" by Gail Dines was both shocking and informative. You can be horrified right now at what kids are consuming.
- mst 13y agoIt seems from most of her public output that Dines' primary goal is to horrify, more so than to reliably inform. http://www.charlieglickman.com/2010/07/08/7-ways-to-create-a-sex-positive-critique-of-porn/ http://www.charlieglickman.com/2010/07/08/7-ways-to-create-a... is one example of an article critiquing her work.
- bitops 13y agoHave you read any of her books?
- joshguthrie 13y agoWhere's the API for this? I want to build the first VSAAS (Virtual Sex As A Service).
- frixionme 13y agoUnfortunately the API wont be released for third party development until next year, likely well into the beta period. But stay tuned! Right now we're working with various vendors that are trying to get their devices supported ahead of time.