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"I mean, hell, even the great 2008 election for change didn't change much. What are the options left?" How about not voting for the people who do these things?

"I mean, hell, even the great 2008 election for change didn't change much. What are the options left?" How about not voting for the people who do these things? Like this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_obama https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_obama Or this lady: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dianne_Feinstein https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dianne_Feinstein Or any of these people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_T._King https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_T._King https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Schumer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Schumer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Boehner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Boehner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Reid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Reid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Pelosi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Pelosi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Nelson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Nelson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxby_Chambliss https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxby_Chambliss Don't be a coward and vote for the lesser of two evils. The lesser of two evils is still evil. Vote third party until the major parties get their act together; that sends them a message, loud and clear, that you are not too lazy to vote and that they are failing to do the things that would be needed to get your support.

frostmatthew 13y ago
> How about not voting for the people who do these things? Like this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_obama https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_obama Pretty sure nobody will be voting for him since he won't be running in any more elections... Seriously though in regards to some of the other names you mentioned is there really any difference by voting for whoever is running against them? Many people (myself included) though Obama was different - that obviously turned out to be completely wrong...so how are we supposed to know who won't do these things?
- betterunix 13y ago
  The problem is not knowing who won't do these things. The problem is that nobody gets punished, and the solution is what I said at the bottom of my post: vote third party. Deprive the major parties of votes, and do so in a way that clearly indicates why you did not vote for them.
- koepked 13y ago
  > Seriously though in regards to some of the other names you mentioned is there really any difference by voting for whoever is running against them? Many people (myself included) though Obama was different - that obviously turned out to be completely wrong...so how are we supposed to know who won't do these things? To me, this idea should encourage more people to vote outside the major parties. If you voted democrat to avoid the consequences of a republican victory, only to find that the results were largely the same anyway, it's no longer a "wasted" vote to vote third party.

frostmatthew 13y ago

> How about not voting for the people who do these things? Like this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_obama https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_obama Pretty sure nobody will be voting for him since he won't be running in any more elections... Seriously though in regards to some of the other names you mentioned is there really any difference by voting for whoever is running against them? Many people (myself included) though Obama was different - that obviously turned out to be completely wrong...so how are we supposed to know who won't do these things?

betterunix 13y ago
The problem is not knowing who won't do these things. The problem is that nobody gets punished, and the solution is what I said at the bottom of my post: vote third party. Deprive the major parties of votes, and do so in a way that clearly indicates why you did not vote for them.
koepked 13y ago
> Seriously though in regards to some of the other names you mentioned is there really any difference by voting for whoever is running against them? Many people (myself included) though Obama was different - that obviously turned out to be completely wrong...so how are we supposed to know who won't do these things? To me, this idea should encourage more people to vote outside the major parties. If you voted democrat to avoid the consequences of a republican victory, only to find that the results were largely the same anyway, it's no longer a "wasted" vote to vote third party.