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People voting for whatever they want other people to read is basically the same as voting for what they want themselves. I know surveyors occasionally ask quest

by aston 19y ago

People voting for whatever they want other people to read is basically the same as voting for what they want themselves. I know surveyors occasionally ask questions like "How do you think most people would answer the following question: ___" in order to get an honest answer in cases where people might not want to fess up to some position personally.

pg 19y ago
People voting for whatever they want other people to read is basically the same as voting for what they want themselves. Only if the Bible is basically the same as porn.
- utnick 19y ago
  For a blind person, they basically are. Why people vote the way they do is an interesting topic, but it won't really affect how the reddits of the world deal with it. A vote is a vote.
- aston 19y ago
  Not the best comparison. I don't see why a person would vote something up that they have no interest in personally. Altruism isn't all that common.
  - pg 19y ago
    There's a difference between what people want to read and what they want other people to read. I know of no precise word for this. Altruism is too charitable, and hypocrisy too uncharitable. Imagine yourself inside the head of, say, an abortion rights advocate. A story appears with a headline saying that abortion is just as common where it's illegal. You don't read it; you already know that; but you upvote it as a way of saying "hear hear." Now apply the same rule to articles about Bush, Ron Paul, the RIAA, police abuses, etc, and you've filled up most of the frontpage of a site.
    - DanielBMarkham 19y ago
      Seems to me like we're confusing the users and the system. The users want to read the best material for them. The system only has two states: yes/no. If people are voting _knowing that their vote will influence what others read_, then they aren't working for the best interests of the users, only their own best interests. As you indicate, I don't think there's a word for that, but if there is a recommendation-consumption impedance mismatch (a gap between recommender interests and reader interests) then the system will always swing out of whack. That's true no matter how much it is weighted, because all you're doing is switching the impedance mismatch from a user-to-user scenario to a user-to-editor one.
- yters 19y ago
  As an aside, this is actually true, though the filter we read the Bible through makes it quite boring. There's a reason the Bible is the most important book for understanding Western civilization.
yters 19y ago
I think we all would like it if everyone else were better behaved than we want to be.

by aston 19y ago

pg 19y ago

People voting for whatever they want other people to read is basically the same as voting for what they want themselves. Only if the Bible is basically the same as porn.

utnick 19y ago
For a blind person, they basically are. Why people vote the way they do is an interesting topic, but it won't really affect how the reddits of the world deal with it. A vote is a vote.
aston 19y ago
Not the best comparison. I don't see why a person would vote something up that they have no interest in personally. Altruism isn't all that common.
- pg 19y ago
  There's a difference between what people want to read and what they want other people to read. I know of no precise word for this. Altruism is too charitable, and hypocrisy too uncharitable. Imagine yourself inside the head of, say, an abortion rights advocate. A story appears with a headline saying that abortion is just as common where it's illegal. You don't read it; you already know that; but you upvote it as a way of saying "hear hear." Now apply the same rule to articles about Bush, Ron Paul, the RIAA, police abuses, etc, and you've filled up most of the frontpage of a site.
  - DanielBMarkham 19y ago
    Seems to me like we're confusing the users and the system. The users want to read the best material for them. The system only has two states: yes/no. If people are voting _knowing that their vote will influence what others read_, then they aren't working for the best interests of the users, only their own best interests. As you indicate, I don't think there's a word for that, but if there is a recommendation-consumption impedance mismatch (a gap between recommender interests and reader interests) then the system will always swing out of whack. That's true no matter how much it is weighted, because all you're doing is switching the impedance mismatch from a user-to-user scenario to a user-to-editor one.
yters 19y ago
As an aside, this is actually true, though the filter we read the Bible through makes it quite boring. There's a reason the Bible is the most important book for understanding Western civilization.

yters 19y ago

I think we all would like it if everyone else were better behaved than we want to be.