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Kraken is an offshoot from work at Paypal and just a few lines above this on the HN frontpage is a post about a Node memory leak post mortem from Wal-Mart. Over

Kraken is an offshoot from work at Paypal and just a few lines above this on the HN frontpage is a post about a Node memory leak post mortem from Wal-Mart. Over the next few years will we see Node become as commonplace in the enterprise as Java and .NET?

fourstar 13y ago
Walmart Labs has been doing lots of javascript for awhile. I believe they will probably release something similar soon as well.
- jbigelow76 13y ago
  Yeah, when I saw they released the Hapi[1] framework for Node several months ago my initial reaction was "is Walmart Labs part of THE Walmart??" 1. http://spumko.github.io/ http://spumko.github.io/ (Hapi used to be maintained within the Walmart Labs Github account but now falls under Spumko)
_random_ 13y ago
Enterprises don't need high-load web sites. Enterprises benefit from non-buggy strong static languages with automated refactoring.
- twerquie 13y ago
  I'd say Walmart needs a high-load solution, as does paypal and LinkedIn who are both using node. Static vs dynamic languages both have merits and are almost completely subjective, but I'd say it comes down to team quality. Don't use the sharp tools if you have undiciplined or inexperienced devs who will fail to design correctly and write tests. Walmart has Eran Hammer, so I don't think they need to worry about that.
  - _random_ 13y ago
    I meant the majority of enterprises, not stand out mega-stars such as Walmart who can afford to have an own lab full of experts. PayPal and LinkedIn are web technology companies relying on high-load public-facing web-sites. All three could afford to even build their own tech from scratch. Let's talk about the other 95% of enterprise - do they typically have high-load public websites?
    - maigret 13y ago
      They are going to have high load services in any case. Check "Internet of things" and "systems of engagement". Your traditional enterprise application is probably not the future of enterprise. It will continue to exist, but its importance will keep getting down.
- nawitus 13y ago
  You can write Node.js backends in TypeScript with static typing and refactoring support.

fourstar 13y ago

Walmart Labs has been doing lots of javascript for awhile. I believe they will probably release something similar soon as well.

jbigelow76 13y ago
Yeah, when I saw they released the Hapi[1] framework for Node several months ago my initial reaction was "is Walmart Labs part of THE Walmart??" 1. http://spumko.github.io/ http://spumko.github.io/ (Hapi used to be maintained within the Walmart Labs Github account but now falls under Spumko)

_random_ 13y ago

Enterprises don't need high-load web sites. Enterprises benefit from non-buggy strong static languages with automated refactoring.

twerquie 13y ago
I'd say Walmart needs a high-load solution, as does paypal and LinkedIn who are both using node. Static vs dynamic languages both have merits and are almost completely subjective, but I'd say it comes down to team quality. Don't use the sharp tools if you have undiciplined or inexperienced devs who will fail to design correctly and write tests. Walmart has Eran Hammer, so I don't think they need to worry about that.
- _random_ 13y ago
  I meant the majority of enterprises, not stand out mega-stars such as Walmart who can afford to have an own lab full of experts. PayPal and LinkedIn are web technology companies relying on high-load public-facing web-sites. All three could afford to even build their own tech from scratch. Let's talk about the other 95% of enterprise - do they typically have high-load public websites?
  - maigret 13y ago
    They are going to have high load services in any case. Check "Internet of things" and "systems of engagement". Your traditional enterprise application is probably not the future of enterprise. It will continue to exist, but its importance will keep getting down.
nawitus 13y ago
You can write Node.js backends in TypeScript with static typing and refactoring support.