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"Occupy and others, you were right. And I was wrong. It was the protesters who were more sophisticated, knowledgeable and aware than I was." No, they weren't!

"Occupy and others, you were right. And I was wrong. It was the protesters who were more sophisticated, knowledgeable and aware than I was." No, they weren't! After dismissing them first, the author comes around and ends up giving the protesters too much credit in my view. I read the protesters' arguments exposed back then and I couldn't make much sense out of those. Yes, things may be wrong as they are and some change is perceived as necessary to avoid the collapse of social order, and for that I also agree that a critical mass of people is needed, which means that the change proponents are in need for as much adherents as they can get, but to crown fools is dangerous.

jeswin 13y ago
Up-voting you. But I'm not sure if we give them enough credit. It is hard to work against the system; insanely hard to do something on this scale. I feel their simple arguments suffice to show how unfair the current system is. And at that/this point, it wasn't even necessary to propose solutions. Step one is to tell the world that there is something wrong. In recent memory, they have been one of the most prominently heard voices and that's a success.
- userulluipeste 13y ago
  Thanks for up-vote, although I expected down-votes for going against what I presumed to be the feeling of the dominant audience. I don't argue that the system is unfair, I just have my fears that in order to get results some very bad mistakes could be committed. In the communist doctrine, in order to get mass support, some populist policies were adopted, like giving free credit to simple people, and (as a consequence) putting them forward, no matter if they were competent or not. So my fear comes from a reality that me along with two older generations had to experience. It's a experience that Americans lack and that obviously makes them prone to repeat bad history. When complimenting someone in political matters, think that your praise may have consequences as it can serve as basis for power claim. When it's about power, the receiving subjects should be (in my book) very, very deserving. Sorry for stretching the limited discussed context to something more.

jeswin 13y ago

Up-voting you. But I'm not sure if we give them enough credit. It is hard to work against the system; insanely hard to do something on this scale. I feel their simple arguments suffice to show how unfair the current system is. And at that/this point, it wasn't even necessary to propose solutions. Step one is to tell the world that there is something wrong. In recent memory, they have been one of the most prominently heard voices and that's a success.

userulluipeste 13y ago
Thanks for up-vote, although I expected down-votes for going against what I presumed to be the feeling of the dominant audience. I don't argue that the system is unfair, I just have my fears that in order to get results some very bad mistakes could be committed. In the communist doctrine, in order to get mass support, some populist policies were adopted, like giving free credit to simple people, and (as a consequence) putting them forward, no matter if they were competent or not. So my fear comes from a reality that me along with two older generations had to experience. It's a experience that Americans lack and that obviously makes them prone to repeat bad history. When complimenting someone in political matters, think that your praise may have consequences as it can serve as basis for power claim. When it's about power, the receiving subjects should be (in my book) very, very deserving. Sorry for stretching the limited discussed context to something more.