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I find myself torn with Spotify. I _really_ love the product and company and probably use it at a minimum 5 hours a day every single day. However I really wish

I find myself torn with Spotify. I _really_ love the product and company and probably use it at a minimum 5 hours a day every single day. However I really wish artists actually earnt money from it. http://lowerdens.tumblr.com/post/34308869231/on-spotify-and-music-consumption http://lowerdens.tumblr.com/post/34308869231/on-spotify-and-...

guard-of-terra 13y ago
Why don't you donate/crowdfund and sew that tear?
- joeconway 13y ago
  Yeah, I try and do what I can to help artists I like. Unfortunately (and bizarrely) I think most people couldn't care less about the artist once they have the music.
  - guard-of-terra 13y ago
    Why not let them? Most people don't care much about music and don't get much from it either. That's the point of freemium/cheapium/dontcarium.
evv 13y ago
If you really listen 5 hours a day, Spotify pays nearly 4x for your music as you pay to them. (calculated with 300hrs/mo, 3.5min/song, and $.0075/song) Good thing they have so much VC money to keep the lights on for a while.
- joeconway 13y ago
  Maybe they could offer a tiered subscription model wherein heavy users pay more?
- thetrb 13y ago
  How is 5 hours a day 300 hours a month? 5 * 30 = 150
jlft 13y ago
Just a few ideas: Let artists sell mp3's (or other formats), and give them a large percentage / Let artists sell merchandising / Let fans pay to became VIP members of an artist to get special stuff / Let artists promote concerts to followers (and maybe sell tickets) / Allow donations directly to artists.
mbesto 13y ago
> However I really wish artists actually earnt money from it. How so? Why do you get to decide how much the distribution model gets for delivering a good service to you? Without them, the product/service never arrives. I'm not saying I disagree with you, but I think just because the assumption that "mp3 reproduction is cheap" doesn't mean there are other forces (marketing for example) at work here. Lest we forget these services cannot be cheaply made in a factory overseas.
- joeconway 13y ago
  Your point is a little vague. I'm not suggesting at all that I should decide the distribution model. I'm just suggesting that its a shame that support for the people who make the content has to come from outside such a useful service
  - mbesto 13y ago
    Sorry, but you are. In any business you have two functions (among others) - production and distribution. What you've suggested is that you want to pay more for production and less for distribution. Further, what I've suggested is that there is a widespread assumption that distribution is in fact "cheap" - when it's not. Is the market currently efficient? That's another debate.
- holyjaw 13y ago
  The comment didn't say "I wish I could dictate the profit model for this market", it said "I wish artists earned more money when I consumed their product."

guard-of-terra 13y ago

Why don't you donate/crowdfund and sew that tear?

joeconway 13y ago
Yeah, I try and do what I can to help artists I like. Unfortunately (and bizarrely) I think most people couldn't care less about the artist once they have the music.
- guard-of-terra 13y ago
  Why not let them? Most people don't care much about music and don't get much from it either. That's the point of freemium/cheapium/dontcarium.

evv 13y ago

If you really listen 5 hours a day, Spotify pays nearly 4x for your music as you pay to them. (calculated with 300hrs/mo, 3.5min/song, and $.0075/song) Good thing they have so much VC money to keep the lights on for a while.

joeconway 13y ago
Maybe they could offer a tiered subscription model wherein heavy users pay more?
thetrb 13y ago
How is 5 hours a day 300 hours a month? 5 * 30 = 150

jlft 13y ago

Just a few ideas: Let artists sell mp3's (or other formats), and give them a large percentage / Let artists sell merchandising / Let fans pay to became VIP members of an artist to get special stuff / Let artists promote concerts to followers (and maybe sell tickets) / Allow donations directly to artists.

mbesto 13y ago

> However I really wish artists actually earnt money from it. How so? Why do you get to decide how much the distribution model gets for delivering a good service to you? Without them, the product/service never arrives. I'm not saying I disagree with you, but I think just because the assumption that "mp3 reproduction is cheap" doesn't mean there are other forces (marketing for example) at work here. Lest we forget these services cannot be cheaply made in a factory overseas.

joeconway 13y ago
Your point is a little vague. I'm not suggesting at all that I should decide the distribution model. I'm just suggesting that its a shame that support for the people who make the content has to come from outside such a useful service
- mbesto 13y ago
  Sorry, but you are. In any business you have two functions (among others) - production and distribution. What you've suggested is that you want to pay more for production and less for distribution. Further, what I've suggested is that there is a widespread assumption that distribution is in fact "cheap" - when it's not. Is the market currently efficient? That's another debate.
holyjaw 13y ago
The comment didn't say "I wish I could dictate the profit model for this market", it said "I wish artists earned more money when I consumed their product."