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In other words : An Apple fanboy is being a total compainypants about Android because he doesn't want to accept that it's actually a pretty good phone.

by Khao 13y ago

ebiester 13y ago
It isn't just him. I do miss undo still. I also still hate the soft buttons - I've hit "back" with my palm and lost what I was doing too many times. I like a lot of things about android, but small things really matter.
- Breakthrough 13y ago
  Hey, who doesn't? That's a very valid point. Too bad it's muddled in with other fan-boyish comments that greatly detract from the post's legitimacy. Is this a blog post about adding undo to Android, or nit-picking about things that aren't even issues? And I quote from the article: > Here's the thing: Typing a password to unlock your phone every time you want to use it is annoying. The root theme of this blogpost is smartphones ideally not wasting one's time, but by typing a password every single time you want to access your phone you're sure wasting a lot of it! That's why Android phones let you customize a time-out before you have to type the password in to unlock the phone (e.g. when you type your password in, you can set it so you don't have to enter it again for the next X minutes automatically)... So I'm going to agree with the original comment and conclude that this is another case of misrepresenting 'facts'. Also, regarding point #5 and the inability for him to use his Apple earphones with his Android phone, he clearly hasn't heard of standard TRRS connectors. At minimum, I find the author's titling of this section "External Hardware Incompatibility" - in an article comparing Apple products to others, no less - to be quite humorous. Or maybe this was intended as satire...?
  - benguild 13y ago
    Yeah, that's a common feature. iPhone has it as well. I'd like to point out that in my next to last paragraph, I state that I want to use Android. I'm not some Apple "fanboy". I believe that setting the disk encryption password separately from the device's is a valid request and the fact that an App has existed for it since Android v3.0 validates that. If you want more of a reason to do so, read this: http://nelenkov.blogspot.com/2012/08/changing-androids-disk-encryption.html http://nelenkov.blogspot.com/2012/08/changing-androids-disk-...
canistr 13y ago
I disagree. Any time someone switches platforms, they will undoubtedly be more prone to identify quirks and missing features in the new platform than everyday users. If companies (be it Apple or Google) want users to switch to their platform from their competitors, it's critical for them to maintain feature-parity and push the boundaries on their strengths. Case in point: Apple adding notifications and copy&paste to the iPhone. Both were gripes from non-iPhone users. But at some point, Apple had to bite the bullet to follow suit. Whether their implementation was a success isn't the point, but rather keeping up with the competition in feature parity.
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- Touche 13y ago
  > I disagree. Any time someone switches platforms, they will undoubtedly be more prone to identify quirks and missing features in the new platform than everyday users. Exactly, and this goes both ways. I switched to iPhone a little over a year ago (because apps) and the new car smell lasted about a day before I was annoyed by quirks like lack of a swipe-keyboard, inability to get a piece of information from one app into another app, and bad app switching. I returned it after about a week of frustration.
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nicholassmith 13y ago
Using words like 'fanboy' is playing the man, not the ball. There's plenty of things to pick apart in there (from someone who's a dedicated user of iOS), but just labelling it as fanboyism isn't an effective way to argue against it.
- pearjuice 13y ago
  >is playing the man, not the ball Which sports are you talking about? Because in most sports where you directly face your opponent (i.e. no lines or nets in between), it is completely legal to use minimal body contact (in football, shoulder bumping is okay, for example) to defend or obtain the ball. "Fanboy" is merely a convenient and quick way to annotate someone who is really into a certain company/product and actively defending it. I don't see how he is playing the man. If he would have said "you lil Apple faggot wouldn't accept Android if it were given to you for free" it would indeed be overly verbal, but "fanboy" is completely acceptable.
  - code_duck 13y ago
    I believe the sports metaphor was intended to mean that the criticism amounted to an ad hominem.
    - nicholassmith 13y ago
      That's the one, the metaphor fit a bit better so I took the ball and ran with it. Not sure it was all in all a slam dunk, but you need to have a punt every now and again.
  - EpicEng 13y ago
    Not sure you watch a lot of football. "Was he playing the ball" is the idiomatic method to use when trying to figure out if pass interference occurred. Defenders are allowed to make contact after 5 yards if they're going for the ball, but not otherwise. Besides, you're just being pedantic, you know what he meant.
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freehunter 13y ago
The point about his headphones seems especially off-key. It works on his iPhone and even on a Mac (disregarding the fact that those are made by the same company)? Obviously it's Android that is missing the standard. The point about the camera is true though. I moved to Android from a Lumia 920 veeeeery begrudgingly simply due to the camera. The camera on my Nexus 4 is about on par with the camera on my old Samsung Focus: junk when compared with the Lumia 920. Now I'm back to the old days where I'm carrying both a phone and a camera (Nexus 4 as a phone, Lumia 920 as a camera). I would pay Nexus 5 money for a Nexus 4 with a Lumia 920 camera, and I know I'm not alone on that.
- benguild 13y ago
  Yeah, it was more just a rant about how there's no headphone remote standard and I granted exception to #5 in the conclusion.
runn1ng 13y ago
Don't do this.
PhasmaFelis 13y ago
I don't agree with the article, but do you not realize that sneeringly calling people "fanboy" is something that only fanboys do?
eonil 13y ago
This is a typical example of how an Android fanboy advocates Google by insulting other people's taste and freedom.

In other words : An Apple fanboy is being a total compainypants about Android because he doesn't want to accept that it's actually a pretty good phone.

by Khao 13y ago

In other words : An Apple fanboy is being a total compainypants about Android because he doesn't want to accept that it's actually a pretty good phone.

ebiester 13y ago

It isn't just him. I do miss undo still. I also still hate the soft buttons - I've hit "back" with my palm and lost what I was doing too many times. I like a lot of things about android, but small things really matter.

Breakthrough 13y ago
Hey, who doesn't? That's a very valid point. Too bad it's muddled in with other fan-boyish comments that greatly detract from the post's legitimacy. Is this a blog post about adding undo to Android, or nit-picking about things that aren't even issues? And I quote from the article: > Here's the thing: Typing a password to unlock your phone every time you want to use it is annoying. The root theme of this blogpost is smartphones ideally not wasting one's time, but by typing a password every single time you want to access your phone you're sure wasting a lot of it! That's why Android phones let you customize a time-out before you have to type the password in to unlock the phone (e.g. when you type your password in, you can set it so you don't have to enter it again for the next X minutes automatically)... So I'm going to agree with the original comment and conclude that this is another case of misrepresenting 'facts'. Also, regarding point #5 and the inability for him to use his Apple earphones with his Android phone, he clearly hasn't heard of standard TRRS connectors. At minimum, I find the author's titling of this section "External Hardware Incompatibility" - in an article comparing Apple products to others, no less - to be quite humorous. Or maybe this was intended as satire...?
- benguild 13y ago
  Yeah, that's a common feature. iPhone has it as well. I'd like to point out that in my next to last paragraph, I state that I want to use Android. I'm not some Apple "fanboy". I believe that setting the disk encryption password separately from the device's is a valid request and the fact that an App has existed for it since Android v3.0 validates that. If you want more of a reason to do so, read this: http://nelenkov.blogspot.com/2012/08/changing-androids-disk-encryption.html http://nelenkov.blogspot.com/2012/08/changing-androids-disk-...

canistr 13y ago

I disagree. Any time someone switches platforms, they will undoubtedly be more prone to identify quirks and missing features in the new platform than everyday users. If companies (be it Apple or Google) want users to switch to their platform from their competitors, it's critical for them to maintain feature-parity and push the boundaries on their strengths. Case in point: Apple adding notifications and copy&paste to the iPhone. Both were gripes from non-iPhone users. But at some point, Apple had to bite the bullet to follow suit. Whether their implementation was a success isn't the point, but rather keeping up with the competition in feature parity.

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Touche 13y ago
> I disagree. Any time someone switches platforms, they will undoubtedly be more prone to identify quirks and missing features in the new platform than everyday users. Exactly, and this goes both ways. I switched to iPhone a little over a year ago (because apps) and the new car smell lasted about a day before I was annoyed by quirks like lack of a swipe-keyboard, inability to get a piece of information from one app into another app, and bad app switching. I returned it after about a week of frustration.

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nicholassmith 13y ago

Using words like 'fanboy' is playing the man, not the ball. There's plenty of things to pick apart in there (from someone who's a dedicated user of iOS), but just labelling it as fanboyism isn't an effective way to argue against it.

pearjuice 13y ago
>is playing the man, not the ball Which sports are you talking about? Because in most sports where you directly face your opponent (i.e. no lines or nets in between), it is completely legal to use minimal body contact (in football, shoulder bumping is okay, for example) to defend or obtain the ball. "Fanboy" is merely a convenient and quick way to annotate someone who is really into a certain company/product and actively defending it. I don't see how he is playing the man. If he would have said "you lil Apple faggot wouldn't accept Android if it were given to you for free" it would indeed be overly verbal, but "fanboy" is completely acceptable.
- code_duck 13y ago
  I believe the sports metaphor was intended to mean that the criticism amounted to an ad hominem.
  - nicholassmith 13y ago
    That's the one, the metaphor fit a bit better so I took the ball and ran with it. Not sure it was all in all a slam dunk, but you need to have a punt every now and again.
- EpicEng 13y ago
  Not sure you watch a lot of football. "Was he playing the ball" is the idiomatic method to use when trying to figure out if pass interference occurred. Defenders are allowed to make contact after 5 yards if they're going for the ball, but not otherwise. Besides, you're just being pedantic, you know what he meant.
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freehunter 13y ago

The point about his headphones seems especially off-key. It works on his iPhone and even on a Mac (disregarding the fact that those are made by the same company)? Obviously it's Android that is missing the standard. The point about the camera is true though. I moved to Android from a Lumia 920 veeeeery begrudgingly simply due to the camera. The camera on my Nexus 4 is about on par with the camera on my old Samsung Focus: junk when compared with the Lumia 920. Now I'm back to the old days where I'm carrying both a phone and a camera (Nexus 4 as a phone, Lumia 920 as a camera). I would pay Nexus 5 money for a Nexus 4 with a Lumia 920 camera, and I know I'm not alone on that.

benguild 13y ago
Yeah, it was more just a rant about how there's no headphone remote standard and I granted exception to #5 in the conclusion.

runn1ng 13y ago

Don't do this.

PhasmaFelis 13y ago

I don't agree with the article, but do you not realize that sneeringly calling people "fanboy" is something that only fanboys do?

eonil 13y ago

This is a typical example of how an Android fanboy advocates Google by insulting other people's taste and freedom.