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Doesn't help me, because the underlying problem is that it won't show any results until they are all in. For some reason Unity needs to wake up my usually sleep

by ch0wn 13y ago

Doesn't help me, because the underlying problem is that it won't show any results until they are all in. For some reason Unity needs to wake up my usually sleeping external drive and wait for it to spin up before I can even start the calculator, which is on my internal SSD. There are some fundamental design flaws in the way the Dock works that unfortunately can be just "tweaked away".

nisa 13y ago
Oh crazy. But I'm not surprised. After ranting to myself and colleagues for a few days after stumbling over a few bugs and trying to fix them... (By the way: Fixing bugs there is almost impossible without going insane - Gobject, Dbus, [put 10 other slightly broken technologies in here], gvfs - layers of abstractions and strange C code with subtle multithreading issues and almost no documentation) ...and after stumbling over a lot of Bugs in Unity or the underlying GNOME infrastructure that are more than 2 years open or just reappear every other Ubuntu release I've switched to KDE (Kubuntu). I've only learned C++ and Java in university so it's probably partly my fault but I've found the whole GNOME / Unity Desktop ecosystem to be pretty hard to understand and impossible to debug. Then I've found this here: http://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html http://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html had a good laugh and stopped caring about it. Sorry to all the people that working hard to improve Desktop Linux but I'm sick of it. While KDE is also not perfect I'm a happy user now.
- ch0wn 13y ago
  Haven't tried it for probably about 10 years now. The only things I really care about are window management and terminal emulation. What are the biggest frustrations using KDE for you?
  - nisa 13y ago
    Window management has tons of options and actually usable virtual desktops - there is even a concept called activities where you can further configure your work spaces. Terminal emulation should be fine. Konsole is mature. There is also a Quake terminal for KDE called Yakuake. Gnome Terminal and Guake work fine through. Biggest frustrations (not really frustrations as I could solve the issues after spending some time with the configuration options): - The Desktop in a widget - you can easily configure it to a normal Desktop but the widget stuff is not really that great IMHO. - I really did not like the default look. I've switched to QtCurve now and I'm quite happy. Some Desktop effects where too much for me but it's easily configurable. If you are familiar with KDE 3.5 you'll feel at home. - I disabled the semantic Desktop. It hogs quite a few resources - KMail is not really usable. But I didn't tried too hard. Thunderbird runs fine - I'm using Pidgin because Kopete and Empathy do not support OTR encryption as far as I know Overall everything is configurable. Which is really confusing at first. There is a learning curve but IMHO it's worth to take the time. 4.11 is really stable for me. No memory leaks or other strange behavior - quite low memory footprint. I'm really impressed. Sorry if I sound like a shill here but after using Unity for the last few years it was worth making the switch. YMMV

by ch0wn 13y ago

nisa 13y ago

Oh crazy. But I'm not surprised. After ranting to myself and colleagues for a few days after stumbling over a few bugs and trying to fix them... (By the way: Fixing bugs there is almost impossible without going insane - Gobject, Dbus, [put 10 other slightly broken technologies in here], gvfs - layers of abstractions and strange C code with subtle multithreading issues and almost no documentation) ...and after stumbling over a lot of Bugs in Unity or the underlying GNOME infrastructure that are more than 2 years open or just reappear every other Ubuntu release I've switched to KDE (Kubuntu). I've only learned C++ and Java in university so it's probably partly my fault but I've found the whole GNOME / Unity Desktop ecosystem to be pretty hard to understand and impossible to debug. Then I've found this here: http://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html http://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html had a good laugh and stopped caring about it. Sorry to all the people that working hard to improve Desktop Linux but I'm sick of it. While KDE is also not perfect I'm a happy user now.

ch0wn 13y ago
Haven't tried it for probably about 10 years now. The only things I really care about are window management and terminal emulation. What are the biggest frustrations using KDE for you?
- nisa 13y ago
  Window management has tons of options and actually usable virtual desktops - there is even a concept called activities where you can further configure your work spaces. Terminal emulation should be fine. Konsole is mature. There is also a Quake terminal for KDE called Yakuake. Gnome Terminal and Guake work fine through. Biggest frustrations (not really frustrations as I could solve the issues after spending some time with the configuration options): - The Desktop in a widget - you can easily configure it to a normal Desktop but the widget stuff is not really that great IMHO. - I really did not like the default look. I've switched to QtCurve now and I'm quite happy. Some Desktop effects where too much for me but it's easily configurable. If you are familiar with KDE 3.5 you'll feel at home. - I disabled the semantic Desktop. It hogs quite a few resources - KMail is not really usable. But I didn't tried too hard. Thunderbird runs fine - I'm using Pidgin because Kopete and Empathy do not support OTR encryption as far as I know Overall everything is configurable. Which is really confusing at first. There is a learning curve but IMHO it's worth to take the time. 4.11 is really stable for me. No memory leaks or other strange behavior - quite low memory footprint. I'm really impressed. Sorry if I sound like a shill here but after using Unity for the last few years it was worth making the switch. YMMV