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TLDR: This blog post is weak and poorly reasoned, but I share some of his concerns. --- I hadn't read the original article, so I won't comment on how shitty i
by zzleeper 13y ago
TLDR: This blog post is weak and poorly reasoned, but I share some of his concerns.
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I hadn't read the original article, so I won't comment on how shitty it is or isn't. What I can say is that this blog post is definitely shitty:
1) S?he first says that boards with more woman do better. But the causality is probably the opposite: if a firm is struggling it will get the best guys to fix their problems, but if your firm is cruising, you can be less careful with the seats (and also it's easier to attract the relatively scarce woman in tech to a successful firm)
Moreover, he completely misses the author point. If you have less woman in tech, then by construction you will end up with less woman in tech boards, because the pool to pick from is much smaller.
2) "in Sweden and Finland, 30% of board seats are held by women".
Of course, firms in Sweden are not doing so voluntarily: "the Swedish Corporate Governance Code of 2004 has a voluntary goal of parity for all board members of listed companies. Companies are obliged to justify the composition of the board through a comply-or-explain mechanism." [1]
This renders his point completely moot...
3) " So men, who have had a position of power over women for most of western history, really can’t understand how unfair the world is, and they think their power over women is deserved"
This feels a lot like those crazy "check your privilege" Tumblr posts, specially the part about deserving their power over women.
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All this being said, I do agree that you can't really distinguish nature from nurture. Maybe men are more competitive because our culture views competitive woman negatively? Same for math, and so on. But the original author never said that men being more competitive was because or genetics or the way kids are raised in our culture. He just states it as a well backed observation.
Also, I am also not convinced by the "men are better board members" argument. There is a lot of research saying men and woman are different as board members (Eg [2]), but I wouldn't say that one group is better than the other. Instead, the answer likely lies in the fact that the talent pool (of people with experience in the tech industry) has a lot more men that woman.
[1] http://ec.europa.eu/justice/gender-equality/files/womenonboards/womenonboards-factsheet-se_en.pdf http://ec.europa.eu/justice/gender-equality/files/womenonboa...
[2] https://sites.google.com/site/patriciafelicitasfunk/home/2012_MS.pdf?attredirects=0 https://sites.google.com/site/patriciafelicitasfunk/home/201...
- asgard1024 13y ago> All this being said, I do agree that you can't really distinguish nature from nurture. I agree with this as well, and I would go further in that. I think, in moral arguments, we should just assume "nurture", and that what is the "nature" is uninteresting for the moral argument to apply. So whether or not men and women are equally good at IT by biology is completely irrelevant to the question of discrimination. I also think this approach will yield best results, because it was shown that people who believe in hard work ("nurture") tend to persist more and in the end be more successful than those who believe in talent ("nature").