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Oh, the poster really is you! haha! I would wager your story is very similar to mine, and to others here. It's why we're here, after all. Balsamiq uses Get
by vitovito 17y ago
Oh, the poster really is you! haha!
I would wager your story is very similar to mine, and to others here. It's why we're here, after all.
Balsamiq uses Get Satisfaction to take in feature requests from users, and they go back and forth with wireframes and mockups right there on the site. That's part of their culture, that's not a function of the site. It sounds like you're trying to fix a sociological problem with technology.
1. If a company is not set up, top to bottom, culture to practice, to take in outside feedback, the effort will fail. The development culture and practice within a company that treats constructive criticism from their users/customers as first-rate along with their internal QA and engineers is completely different from one that doesn't. You see this in any company that releases an SDK, publishes an API or licenses technology. Some will rearchitect entire APIs because they realized they got in wrong once people started trying to use it. Some will pack up their ball and go home.
Having spent years running support and developer relations teams, my cynicism tells me the companies you will attract will be the latter, trying to be the former. The former doesn't need you; they can do it themselves, because they believe in it already. The latter will use you, but will fail internally because they don't really want to listen. You can't change a business model and internal culture with a web site. Now, with management and process consultants...
2. No, I don't care how the company is losing. It's a company. It's not a person whose life I can materially improve by helping it. It's a bureaucracy that exists to extract profit at the expense of its customers and employees. Inventing something that improves a particular coffee maker doesn't help anyone but the shareholders of the coffee maker making company; everyone who bought that particular coffee maker isn't going to get a free replacement. You would better serve the people who have the same problem with the same coffee maker by publishing a fix and offering replacement widgets via mail for some token amount, or by making your own coffee maker that solves all those problems and more.
3. I'm not going to go back and re-read the post to highlight specific complaints, but the entire tone, I find, is one of bitterness. It's not wide-eyed idealism, it's "I'll show you all," which comes across quite differently. This is the lack of diplomacy I mean.
Your "points that are made are that" paragraph here is better, but remember that your beliefs aren't everyone else's.
I believe that most people don't want to be inventors, producers, journalists or musicians. Most people don't "demand" to give ideas. Most people don't think that hard about anything at all, but technology in particular, as the priesthood culture of technology has trained people to believe that if something is wrong with technology, it's really their own fault (I'd quote from DoET, but I can't find my copy). And, of those people that have ideas, most lack the subversiveness to do anything about them.
Despite all of these things, I really hope you find both some success with this and in the future. I hope I'm wrong and you change the world. But, if I'm not, I hope you come to understand why at a level deeper than "no-one got it," because that greater comprehension of the system of the world is what will really help in your next venture.
- dejan 17y agoWell, I like the tone of this post also much better :) Yes I am the poster, I got the insults there previously a bit personal :) I agree with you that it is a sociological problem being tackled here. Indeed, if we succeed in this it will be a great social innovation. I am far from seeing it easy and obvious, but a bumpy ride we're all going to learn from. As I see now, we'll either become a full fledged channel for embedding constructive feedback to companies, or a new recruiting place with a different, proactive method. However, I am not the one inventing this thing up just to prove something to companies. My statements are based on Eric Von Hippel's work from the 80s: "The Sources of Innovation" and "Democratizing Innovation" - The Lead User Theory. And you need to see that this is not something new, as many are already doing it. The only thing is - they have to ask for it - explicitly like Dell and Starbucks, implicitly like Lego and Harley Davidson. What we suggest is something to enrich it a bit more - self initiated input, whether it is a current user or not. Moreover, we are giving back for the input, they aren't, while they still get the input? People want to contribute, Open Source, wikis, this discussion we are having here (thank you). You are right that most people do not want to participate and as you say out of those that have ideas most lack the willingness to act. We are trying to make them share, and maybe when others see they'll change their mind? I don't know, that is truly brave thing to ask, so lets see where it goes? The target audience are young people and students, who are given incentives and awards for it. I guess for money and recommendations as well visibilities, students "want to be inventors, journalists and musicians." If it helps them get closer to companies, why not? I truly believe that student ideas should be seen by companies, and others. Also, we are not founded as a company yet, and maybe we'll take the route of a non-profit. Call this a big experiment, we'll all learn something from it. I do not expect anyone to agree with me on the blog post, those are truly personal beliefs. I didn't attack anyone in particular but processes, so I don't see a reason for any revolt from anyone. Thank you for these insights, and regarding #3 I will rewrite the tone later so I don't get my head chopped off, served something else rather than coffee in a bar, or hit by a bus :))
- vitovito 17y agoAs long as you know what you're getting into. ;) I don't disagree with your blog post generally, I just am not sure you'll get the sort of buy-in you want from companies you want. Doesn't mean you shouldn't try, and I'm glad you are. I picked up Tom Peters' book, Re-Imagine. I'll check out the 80s works you cited, too. I assume you've read The Cluetrain Manifesto? Good luck!