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I can see how this appears to replace a TSA employee watching for reverse travel, but what has been created is of a different nature. Atlanta's airport has a si

by ynniv 13y ago

I can see how this appears to replace a TSA employee watching for reverse travel, but what has been created is of a different nature. Atlanta's airport has a similar reverse-travel prevention system in the form of a 3 story escalator, but there travelers can't be easily singled out. This individual door system is a security camera and a remote override away from individual detainment. Add facial recognition (the physical conditions are ideal) and the only thing separating this from an automated warrant officer is a willing politician. It seems out of place to be upset by what appears to be an automatic door, but some forethought suggests this is substantially different from what it replaced.

rhizome 13y ago
Yet another reason to be happy that facial-recognition doesn't work.
superuser2 13y ago
Serious question: should we not be able to arrest people we have arrest warrants for? Is there a right to flee arrest? The only difference from the status quo is that currently, you could try to run from the police once recognized and they might not be fast enough to tackle you. But as far as I know, the Constitution does not enshrine any principle of "the right to a sporting chance at escaping trial" - just "the right to a fair trial."
- ynniv 13y ago
  Of course we should. But an automated warrant officer would also be something new... Airports seem to have their own notion of legality, so at what point would it detain someone? An international warrant? US felony warrant? US state felony? Misdemeanor? Back taxes? Unpaid child support? Unpaid municipal fines? We accept all major credit cards! You didn't report for jury duty... mind telling us where you live now? And while you're here, we'd like to inform you that your ex-roommate has run afoul of the law... perhaps you've seen him lately? Let me get the investigating officer on the line... Facial recognition primarily fails because the camera is too far away, and at a poor angle. Please stare at this camera to open the door. Hmm, those glasses are getting in the way, mind taking them off? Please, don't bang on the glass like that, it scares the other travelers. Just a second, I'll black out the "privacy" glass. Anything that can be done will be done in the right context. A little imagination is always prudent!
- jasonlotito 13y ago
  > should we not be able to arrest people we have arrest warrants for? For the children...
dragonwriter 13y ago
We're talking about airports, where the security procedures already require a non-transferrable boarding pass and photo ID for identity confirmation to enter the secure area at the departure airport. If you were going to build an "automated warrant officer" system overlaying existing airport security, there's plenty of places where it would already be fairly trivial to do that exit mantraps probably don't affect the risk that much.

by ynniv 13y ago

rhizome 13y ago

Yet another reason to be happy that facial-recognition doesn't work.

superuser2 13y ago

Serious question: should we not be able to arrest people we have arrest warrants for? Is there a right to flee arrest? The only difference from the status quo is that currently, you could try to run from the police once recognized and they might not be fast enough to tackle you. But as far as I know, the Constitution does not enshrine any principle of "the right to a sporting chance at escaping trial" - just "the right to a fair trial."

ynniv 13y ago
Of course we should. But an automated warrant officer would also be something new... Airports seem to have their own notion of legality, so at what point would it detain someone? An international warrant? US felony warrant? US state felony? Misdemeanor? Back taxes? Unpaid child support? Unpaid municipal fines? We accept all major credit cards! You didn't report for jury duty... mind telling us where you live now? And while you're here, we'd like to inform you that your ex-roommate has run afoul of the law... perhaps you've seen him lately? Let me get the investigating officer on the line... Facial recognition primarily fails because the camera is too far away, and at a poor angle. Please stare at this camera to open the door. Hmm, those glasses are getting in the way, mind taking them off? Please, don't bang on the glass like that, it scares the other travelers. Just a second, I'll black out the "privacy" glass. Anything that can be done will be done in the right context. A little imagination is always prudent!
jasonlotito 13y ago
> should we not be able to arrest people we have arrest warrants for? For the children...

dragonwriter 13y ago

We're talking about airports, where the security procedures already require a non-transferrable boarding pass and photo ID for identity confirmation to enter the secure area at the departure airport. If you were going to build an "automated warrant officer" system overlaying existing airport security, there's plenty of places where it would already be fairly trivial to do that exit mantraps probably don't affect the risk that much.