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Thanks for the list. All companies I will try to avoid in the future. Look at all the LLCs and the obvious trolls on there.
by linuxhansl 13y ago
Thanks for the list.
All companies I will try to avoid in the future.
Look at all the LLCs and the obvious trolls on there.
- rexreed 13y agoGood luck - many of these companies form the basis for the products you eat or use (Proctor & Gamble), rely on (General Electric), or need in an emergency (Medical Device Manufacturers Association). A boycott here won't have much effect because in practice it's almost impossible to avoid using or relying on the products or services offered by these companies. Rather, you should focus your ire and spending practices on the congress people that agreed to leave the CBM out of the legislation. They care more about what you think or care about. Or give your money to folks like the EFF that will use their lobbying power to counterweight these other folks.
- whatever2001 13y agoHere's the link to donate to EFF: https://supporters.eff.org/donate https://supporters.eff.org/donate
- oscargrouch 13y ago>Rather, you should focus your ire and spending practices on the congress people that agreed to leave the CBM out of the legislation. Or rather.. do both; do anything we can.. Boycoting the products its also a good idea.. a very good one.. if we can get a "anti-patent" conscious citizen the same way we do with the green conscience.. The companies will fall faster, less money to spend in lobbies.. so why not?
- vinceguidry 13y agoBoycott P&G? Do you have any idea what you're suggesting? You might as well boycott eating.
- bloopletech 13y agoIndeed. Here's the full list of P&G brands: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Procter_&_Gamble_brands http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Procter_&_Gamble_brands
- droidist2 13y agoIs there a such thing as a partial boycott, where you just use less of something or avoid some of a company's products but not others? Perhaps there's another word for it. Either way, this seems like it would be useful too (maybe even more so because it's more realistic for people to do).
- vinceguidry 13y agoHow could that possibly be effective?
- droidist2 13y agoWhy wouldn't it? What do you believe the goal of a boycott to be?
- vinceguidry 13y agoThe goal of any public pressure tactic is to force an organization to change its policy. Not to deny it revenue. If you're not doing the former, then all you're accomplishing with the latter is making yourself feel good about 'doing something'.
- droidist2 13y agoAnd how do you force it to change its policy simply by not buying its products? Why would a company, particularly a worldwide conglomerate, care whether you buy their products or not? Hint: You've already said it.
- fallingOff 13y ago
- techscruggs 13y agoWhat is the significance of LLCs being on the list?
- loganu 13y agoI believe it's that the LLC "incorporation" is something generally used for small businesses, sole proprietorships, etc. The LLCs could likely be viewed as either patent troll companies or small companies built or paid to put their name behind legislation like this. (I could be way off, but that's how I'm viewing them)
- Zoomla 13y agoI might be wrong but I don't think that the problem is with those companies trying to help themselves. Like many, I think that politicians should not be allowed to accept bribes from companies and that it might just solve problems like this one.
- rayiner 13y agoLook at the list posted above about the tiny amounts these huge companies spent "bribing" politicians: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6770059 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6770059. The fact of the matter is that Procter and Gamble doesn't need to "bribe" any politicians to get favorable legislation. They just have to call up a Congressman and say: "hey, we have tens of thousands of workers in your state, it would be a shame if anything happened to them."
- Zoomla 13y agoI think that you have a good point. But these "tiny" amounts could easily double/triple the politician's salaries (if the companies spend it in the right places, they don't need to bribe everybody).
- tedunangst 13y agoHow much business were you really planning on doing with Caterpillar?
- giovannibajo1 13y agoLol I actually do business with one of their subsidiaries - can't say which because NDAs.
- thrillgore 13y agoMight want to go off the grid, live off the land.