same opnions. also, remember 1st time i went to php.net. it was a screenfull design (no scroll) with a curved navigation on the side (probably images cut in a

same opnions. also, remember 1st time i went to php.net. it was a screenfull design (no scroll) with a curved navigation on the side (probably images cut in a table) and everywhere you moused over that navigation a popup with transparent ballon showed... i didnt even read the site content and dismissed it as a dhtml-for-cms fad and contied to use only apache as my backend framework